Talk:List of 2012 Summer Olympics broadcasters

Sky as broadcaster?

Regarding the United Kingdom broadcast rights, the BBC are the SOLE broadcaster of the games in the UK. Some rights are also available to Eurosport through the EBU, but Sky Sports have absolutely zero rights to the 2012 Games. Until a source is provided to prove otherwise (which is unlikely considering it's not true) I suggest whichever user keeps puting Sky Sports up as a rights holder desists immediately, espcially considering they do not live in the UK and are quite obviously clueless. This internet link demonstrates that the BBC is the rights holder: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2124497/London-2012-Olympics-BBC-broadcast-live.html

Where confusion may lay is that the BBC have made 24 HD digital feeds available to platforms to be carried during the Olympics. Not only is the Sky satellite platform taking on the feeds, so too are the Freesat and Virgin Media cable platforms. Sky the satellite platform should not be confused with Sky Sports television channels. Dundedia (talk) 23:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Dundedia, don't forget that rights signed between the broadcaster which joint deal does not broke the EU rules. Don't forget, one broadcaster can buy some rights (not all) from another broadcaster. --Aleenf1 11:22, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Aleenf1, you're confusing EU legislation with national one. UK laws on FTA broadcasting rule that such event has to be broadcast on FTA TV, with few minor exceptions, although those have to be allowed by Ofcom. And Sky didn't bought any rights from the Beeb. They are only going to have access to some HD "extra" channels that the Beeb wil broadcast through Pay-TV platforms and the internet, since the SD versions of those "extra" channels are going to be available UK-wide on FTA satellite TV.JDamanWP (talk) 17:51, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

They had signed a non-exclusive basis to joint broadcast with BBC and Eurosport, here talking about broadcaster and eventually not the one who won the right. Eventually joint agreement signed, so no argument. --Aleenf1 23:15, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Addition note:

1. This article is about broadcasters, not rights buyer. Even Sky did not have any rights, but joint deal sign between Sky and BBC are legal.
2. UK laws insist that Olympic Games must acquire by FTA player, even this, like what happen, BBC (exclusive) joint with Sky (non-exclusive), remember BBC released non-exclusive rights. The things not just in UK, ESPN released some rights to mio tv also, could you say it is not legal? --Aleenf1 12:48, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

When are you willing to understand that Sky is not going to broadcast an inch of the Olympics to the UK market? They don't have any rights to broadcast it. They are just going to have some BBC channels on their platform, like Virgin Media and FTA satellite broadcasting (also, those feeds are going to be broadcast online). Is that difficult to you to understand that there is no joint agreement between Sky and the Beeb? NO DAMN JOINT AGREEMENT!!! I'm getting pretty sick and tired of you're know-it-all attitude! JDamanWP (talk) 12:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Please be civil, i think you are in vandalism zone of wipeout well sourced fact without any prove that i'm being wrong doing. The all information is well present and i'm simply doesn't get your POV issue. --Aleenf1 14:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid Aleen is showing a misunderstanding of the sources to which he/she is citing in the line "Sky satellite, Virgin Media and Freesat can provide coverage through the feed from BBC and Eurosport as part of joint deal. Sky will show Eurosport's 3D coverage on Sky 3D." Sky, Virgin and Freesat are simply carriers of the BBC's services. They are not broadcasting a feed, they are broadcasting the BBC's channels on their platforms like the do every day of the year. The sentence is misleading and probably shows a further misunderstang of the way television is broadcast. I think Aleen needs to bow to superior knowledge on this one. I don't think any mention of the providers carrying the BBC's services is needed, because on that basis the article should also include mentions of every cable system and affiliate that carries, for example, NBC in the US. There needs to be a further deletion, because UTV are definitely not broadcasting the Games in Northern Ireland. The RTE article referred to is incorrect. As NI is administratively part of the UK it will receive BBC coverage. I will delete both unless there is a consensus otherwise. Pjbeef (talk) 15:33, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, i don't get, without that deal, is that 3 broadcasters allow to carrying? i don't think extra information is unnecessary, it still provide piece of value to give people that such broadcasters still provide the coverage, even from BBC channels. I did cite the ref, and i think Wikipedia is not only based on knowledge, but judgement and source too. Furthermore, i don't think you can delete something that being true, as the last word like you have authority to do so. --Aleenf1 15:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Sky Digital, Virgin Media and Freesat, are simples carriers of the BBC's services. As such, such information considering them as broadcasters is wrong and should be erased. JDamanWP (talk) 21:56, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Aleen that he doesn't get it - the 3 carriers (Sky, Virgin and Freesat) are carriers of BBC services, not 'broadcasters', so there are not '3 broadcasters'. The 'deal' is for those carriers to carry extra channels that the BBC is going to broadcast on during the games. You're misunderstanding that difference. Are you going to list every cable system or satellite provider that's carrying every other Olympic broadcaster in every other country? Your interpretation of the facts here isn't 'true' I'm afraid, you're misunderstanding the source. I am going to change this unless anyone other than Aleen disagrees. Pjbeef (talk) 20:36, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I can just fine if someone can be censored out a valuable info for unknown reasons. Like UEFA, i don't think someone who didn't have right can transmit the feed and the news release simply a "joke". I didn't put in the main list, but extra note, such things can be exempt for everyone convenient, but someone didn't get it. -Aleenf1 12:54, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I can't understand your response. Pjbeef (talk) 07:44, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Austrian broadcaster is missing

ORF broadcasts the Olympic Games in Austria, seems to be missing in the table. --Ph99Ph (talk) 14:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I can explain

Concerning my last edit, I can explain everything.

I separated the list into continent-wide rights holders and broadcasters for individual countries making it easier to navigate. Also, I replaced {{ref|n|n}} with <ref group="note" name="name"> so everyone can add notes easily. And I placed both North and South Korea under K; I believe it's a norm in the English Wikipedia.

Now, let's talk about this statement and right holders in Macau and both Korea.

The Games also saw two neighbouring regions sharing one television broadcaster apart from pay-TV. China Central Television (CCTV), which is known in Mainland China will also provide a feed in Macau. For the first time, South Korea and North Korea will share one television provider, as both countries continue to have diplomatic tensions. ([1], [2])

I believe this statement is an over-analysed presentation. The sources given just say SBS bought broadcasting rights of 2010-16 games for both Korea and CCTV has rights for Mainland China and Macau, and SBS has one for both Korea, but nothing further than that. I would call it an OR.

I don't know what happened in Vancouver 2010 winter games, but in South Africa 2010 World Cup games, SBS, having North Korean rights for the football games, was trying to sell them to the North's KCBC. But after having trouble, the KCBC choose to buy them from ABU and FIFA instead. I believe the situation will be no different for this year's London games. (And just heard that SBS has gave up the North Korean rights for London games.)

After a lot of controversies over SBS having monopoly on the South Korean broadcasting rights of both Olympic and FIFA games, as well as mistakes in the coverage made by them, the KBS, MBC and SBS will cover the games again from this year. But because SBS has exclusive rights, unlike the previous years, the other two bought rights from SBS.

OK. Head over to Macau. I left Macau blank because, even though CCTV has rights for both Mainland China and Macau, that doesn't mean Teledifusão de Macau won't do anything. (May be, it's just the olympic.org document having an error?) In fact, TDM relays three full-time CCTV channels and the two other Mainland channels through its digital transmitters, but none of them is either CCTV 1 nor 5 which will broadcast the games. Besides, the article you suggested about CCTV's rights says NOTHING about Macau. JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 16:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

We believe the sources, not words. --Aleenf1 14:02, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 July 2012

in the channel broadcasting column,for India,please change "doordarshan" to "doordarshan,ESPN,ESPN HD,Star Sports" 27.48.49.97 (talk) 07:52, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

 Declined – ESPN serves for the Asia, not just India, if i do it for once, the rest must be follow as well, and no point i have to do for Asia column. --Aleenf1 08:01, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Macau

As of this revision, the article describes that CCTV has the broadcasting rights for both mainland China and Macau, like:

The Games also saw two neighbouring regions sharing one television broadcaster apart from pay-TV. China Central Television (CCTV), which is known in Mainland China will also provide a feed in Macau. [...]

I doubted that when I saw that sentence. Think about it. None of the CCTV channels are available in Macau in analogue, and none of the mainland channels that would broadcast the Games are available on digital television. Furthermore, I don't think TDM, the only terrestrial broadcaster in Macau, won't do anything at all. But recently, I found this description in a version of the article in Chinese Wikipedia:

（播放权由央视提供，节目信号取自央视在中国大陆的播出画面外加自行粤语解说）

I can't understand Chinese language at all, but I recognise some Chinese characters. So I assume that TDM takes video feed from or simulcasts some channels of CCTV, and adds Cantonese commentaries over them.

The question is, is this really the first time the TDM did such thing? JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 12:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

As per references, that is no answer. The case just like North and South Korea, did SBS available in North Korea? I don't think so, but IOC awarded the rights, so that is nothing to argue. --Aleenf1 13:45, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

You don't know how media situation goes on in Macau? Me neither. (That's why I put RFC tag, though.) JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 16:08, 12 August 2012 (UTC)