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Michigan - Ohio State rivalry

Please discuss your edits on Talk before making them again, so we can sort out the most sensible way to handle things. Thanks! JohnInDC (talk) 18:53, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

See the appropriate talk page. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 18:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I am not going to 3RR template you but your unwillingness to consider any variation to your (unsourced!) surmises about OSU's actions today - and its implication for Tressel's "official" record - is discouraging and, in my view, a problem. JohnInDC (talk) 19:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I *will* template you this time. The sources - of questionable reliability on the immediate question in the first place - disagree. Your edits reflect your own personal interpreation of which one is the better one, and as such are inappropriate. Please stop making them. JohnInDC (talk) 23:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Please see the appropriate talk page. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 23:14, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that edit

And I mean that sincerely. Thanks again. JohnInDC (talk) 01:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

A thousand pardons

I am terribly sorry. I just noticed. I am very glad I checked my contribs or I wouldn't have seen it. I must have clicked rollback somehow while doing something else both stupidly and quickly. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Ellison & Painesville

I was mistaken and jumped the gun. Harlan Ellison certainly grew up in Painesville, Ohio, a small to medium town some 20 to 30 miles from Cleveland along the coast, and an episode of the revived 1980s Twilight Zone written by HE about a writer returning to the small town he grew up in is autobiographical and about HE's return to Painesville as an adult. I myself attended a lecture by HE in Cleveland in 1988 in which he spoke at length about his youth in Paineville. However, according to Harlan Ellison: the edge of forever By Ellen Weil, Gary K. Wolfe, he was actually born in....Cleveland, and his family relocated to Painesville shortly after his birth. I apologize for my hastiness.--WickerGuy (talk) 00:46, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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WMMS

Hey...

I didn't mean to start a fuss, it's just that that sports is a big part of WMMS' image (when you carry games of all 3 of Cleveland's major sports teams, it deserves a mention).

In all reality, what WMMS is trying to be more or less is a radio "man cave".

You have the hot talk, active rock (Nikki Sixx fits into both), the Browns, and a handful of Tribe and Cavs games.

That shows they're trying to be a "guy's radio station", thus it's hard to pigeon hole them into one category.

Again, thanks for seeing things my way.

Vjmlhds 19:02, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I've decided to remove the Indians and Cavaliers note from the lead. Rover, Sixx Sense, Browns, Alan Cox: the major programming is all that's needed.

Also, it's not so much that I see things your way as I am in no mood for an edit conflict with you. That requires communication, a little difficult given your tendency to repeatedly blank your talk page. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 19:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

WKNR/WWGK - NFL on Westwood One

Ohio Media Watch is a very respected media blog covering the happenings in Cleveland media.

[1]

If he puts some info either on his blog or on a message board, it's money in the bank.

OMW has gone above and beyond talking about the new FM sports station coming to Cleveland, dropping all kinds of info (New program director, talent signings, etc.)

So I feel confident in editing WKNR/WWGK to reflect the fact that they have lost the WW1 package.

Vjmlhds 00:16, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

For the purposes of Wikipedia, a message board just isn't good enough. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 10:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Read it and weep, buddy boy:

[2]

Hate to say I told you so, but...

Vjmlhds 17:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I have no problem with Ohio Media Watch (the blog, not from some message board). Just add it to the article and we're good. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Also, please use the established convention if you're going to post on my talk page. Colons, etc. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 22:42, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough about the message board/blog deal.

Also, I got a little snotty with you because I felt you were getting a little bit up on your high horse with me, so it was a tit for tat thing.

Listen, let's cut the advisarial stuff out, and work together.

Vjmlhds 00:46, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I will remove any future edits to my talk page which do not conform to the established convention on Wikipedia (colons, etc.). Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 01:05, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Disregard the above post, as that would possibly violate WP:TALK.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 01:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

TV Station On Air Talent

LEAVE THE ON AIR TALENT FOR TV STATIONS ALONE! IF YOU CONTINUE TO DELETE THE TALENT ROSTERS ON ALL THE CLEVELAND STATIONS, I WILL HAVE YOU BLOCKED! KNOCK IT OFF, NOW!

Vjmlhds 13:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Vjmlhds, I am new to local TV station articles. Up until recently, I have focused on radio station articles, where the established convention is not to list personalities (especially those w/o articles). Moreoever, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television_Stations#Article_structure only suggests "information on its personalities, past and present". Per WP:EMBED, prose is preferred over lists:

'"Prose is preferred in articles as prose allows the presentation of detail and clarification of context, in a way that a simple list may not. Prose flows, like one person speaking to another, and is best suited to articles, because their purpose is to explain.

Aside from issues with the list format itself, I don't think every current on air personality at the local Fox affiliate in Cleveland, Ohio merits inclusion in that station's article. Qwyrxian has clued me in on the standard for TV stations, so I'll leave the issue alone for now.

Also, as a reminder, please use established conventions when posting on my talk page: Wikipedia:Talk page layout; WP:SHOUT.

 Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 22:06, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

While Vjmhlds's tone is incorrect, the basic message is correct. While lists of alumni must be restricted to only notable former employees (usually those w/own wikipages, occasionally one or two w/good refs), current employees can be listed without references. The current on air staff for station news teams is equivalent to a cast list on a television show or movie, and, as such, is an integral part of the information. The presumption is that the information can be verified either by actually watching the channel, or by the station's website (many of the articles actually maintain a link to the most current station biography page). Since this is a pretty widely held standard on TV station pages, I strongly recommend raising it on WP:WikiProject Television Stations before attempting to remove what does seem to be important info. TV station pages are awash in unsourced, likely even unverifiable info (slogans, history, etc.), so if you want to start cutting that out, I fully support you, but if you call current on air staff listcruft, that would seem to imply all actor lists should be removed from all tv shows. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll have to disagree with you (Qwyrxian), though I'll leave the issue alone for now. I just don't see how a laundry list of on air news personalities helps readers better understand the significance of a local tv station. I generally focus on radio station articles, where the "widely held standard" is not to list personalities; a written format is preferred. Also, I don't think the cast of a television show (say, that of The Sopranos) is really all that comparable to the news team of the local Fox affiliate in Cleveland, Ohio. Also note that the article I was editing was not for any one "show"; it was for a station which airs a range of programming, some local, some not. Something tells me that if the local news program on WJW were notable enough, it would have its own article. Regardless, thanks for cluing me in on the TV standard.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 21:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. It may well be an issue worth pursuing in the future (to be honest, I'd like to remove about 80% of the information in most of the TV station articles for one reason or another--usually, lack of verification), but even drawing a line on some of the simplest things has proven difficult in the face of high levels of resistance from both anonymous disruption and from local editors decrying the "destruction" of their station's page. I recently opened an RfC to remove all unsourced slogans from all tv station articles, and that floundered. Meh, with 3 million articles (and growing) they can't all be good...or even passable. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Vjmlhds post (heading added by Levdr1lostpassword)

You just have to be that guy don't you...

The flip happens TOMMOROW!!!!, in just a few hours...you don't have to wait till the very last second.

COME ON, ALREADY!

Sometimes, I think you just like being a pain in the @$$!

Vjmlhds 18:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

If you don't stop with the holier than thou nonsense...You will be blocked!

Vjmlhds 19:10, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

WKRK-FM will remain modern/alt rock until midnight tonight. The format flip is clearly noted in the lead and Sports Radio 92.3 sub-section. Changing the article's format prior to the station itself does Wikipedia readers a disservice.

Also, please use established conventions when posting on my talk page, including section headings so as to avoid mixing separate discussions: Wikipedia:Talk page layout.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 19:15, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Just can't, can you?

Vjmlhds 19:18, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll back off...but beginning tommorow, I don't wanna hear anymore nonsense from you!

Vjmlhds 19:32, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Changes will come at midnight tonight. That's been my intent all along. I've even added a sightly larger version of the new logo for user specifically in the infobox. Let's just not get ahead of ourselves.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 19:34, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Why did you remove my citation, Big Chuck & Little John?

Did you read the article? The citation is in paragraph 11 which confirms the new show. There are ALSO many other articles about this new show on Goggle. Please dont remove this without giving a reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.240.210.66 (talk) 23:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

I haven't edited Big Chuck and Lil' John since you added your citation. Check the page history again.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 06:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Very odd indeed! I did add the citation than came back to see the article again and the citation needed was put back, I looked at the history, seen your user ID as the one that changed it, left you this message, and changed it back to show the citation. I just clicked UNDO to restore the previous revision. Now it's as if this never happened, LOL! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.240.210.66 (talk) 09:49, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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Cleveland Christmas Music

WDOK, WMJI, and WFHM have all switched to Christmas music from now until after Christmas.

All 3 station websites are all decked out in full Xmas regalia, and if you need a 3rd party to verify anything, go to Yes.com and checkout their playlist logs.

It's all Christmas music.

WDOK and WFHM have been doing this for years, and WMJI is just now getting in on it.

It's notable to point out when 3 very different stations in the same city all suspend their normal format to go all Christmas, so leave the notes in the articles.

Thank You.

Vjmlhds 18:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Setting aside the issue of notability, you are still obligated to verify those claims. Failing that, either add {{Citation needed}} to the unsourced content, or remove it until it is properly sourced.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 21:42, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Sigh. Here's some more verification--[3] Seriously, it's almost like you want CIA clearance to simply point out the fact that 3 Cleveland radio stations suspended their normal formats to play Christmas music. I've given you the station's websites, YES.com, and now Ohio Media Watch. That's 3 sources...WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?! Vjmlhds 15:17, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

If your sources do in fact verify the claim, then simply add them to the appropriate articles using acceptable reference formats.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 07:18, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Sigh--again. I put the OMW story in as a reference for WDOK and WMJI, and I used WFHM's own website as a reference for "The Fish" as right on the front page, they flat out tell us that they're playing all Christmas music. Now go find someone else to pester will you? There's a difference between wanting to stick to code and being a "Wiki Hall Monitor" as it were. Vjmlhds 14:35, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Please use acceptable reference formats: "Raw links are not recommended in lieu of properly written out citations, even if placed between ref tags..." Also, stick to the content.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 16:57, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Seriously, I'm trying to work with you. But you simply can't IGNORE the fact that all these stations have suspended their normal formats for Christmas music. There has to be some sort of acknowledgement that for 6 weeks, WFHM, WDOK, and WMJI are going "off the board" (basically all stunting as it were). The stations' websites themselves are slapping us in the face with the fact they've gone Xmas as soon as we get there. Instead of merely erasing the information, put it in the article in a way that meets Wiki standards, because apparently no matter which way I go, I'm always wrong (at least according to you). Vjmlhds 23:20, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Clearly your Ohio Media Watch link verifies that Christmas music is being played on both WMJI and WDOK throughout the holiday season. Are those facts notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia? Quite frankly, I'm indifferent to whether they are or aren't (i.e., I am not compelled to add that info with a properly sourced citation to either article). However, if you feel compelled to add that info to the WMJI and WDOK articles, then by all means do so. Just be sure to add properly formatted citations. By properly formatted, I mean ref coding without brackets for the URL address -- that way readers can see what it is you're linking to instead of just a number. Or go a step further and use a citation template. Originally, I was willing to simply add {{citation needed}} templates, but you began removing them before I had a chance to finish (see edit here).  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 06:04, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I will cop to not understanding "Wiki-ese" as fluently as you do. Let's do this...using the OMW link, put it in the WDOK article and reference it in the proper manner. You do it in the proper manner, and then I can see how it's done, so in the future when something like this happens, I'll know how it's done and not have any further problems. Vjmlhds 15:27, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Again, I am not compelled to add that information. I appreciate your willingness to cooperate now, though, which is why I will continue to support your idea of adding the holiday music info... but only if you add a properly formatted source. I already tried putting up a {{citation needed}} template when your edits lacked proper sources, but you took that down. Hence, the current situation we find ourselves in... But look, I'm not unreasonable. Just add a properly formatted citation, and we're good. It's not difficult. This is all you have to type: < ref > http://www.your-OMW-source.com < / ref > And don't add brackets on either side of the URL address -- if you do, the source will appear only as a bracketed number in the reference section (e.g., [2]). If you really want to aid Wikipedia readers, use a citation template via Wikipedia:Citation templates. (If you can figure out how to create a user account and edit content, I don't think you'll have any trouble using that page).  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 01:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

OK, I think I have all my ducks in a row. I think the problem is that we both went all or nothing here when it didn't need to be. I had the information (which was sourced), and you had the know-how of how to meet the standards. Thanks for the heads up about how to meet standards. I think I can now go foward without needing my hand held. If we don't have anymore of these little pow-wows before 12/25, let me say Merry-Merry and Happy-Happy. Vjmlhds 15:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Excellent. If you want, feel free to put a note in each of their infoboxes (really). Happy Holidays.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 22:31, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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Play by play in prose/Jeff Phelps

2 things:

First, I see how you adjusted the sports play by play on the WKNR page into prose. It looks good, and I did the same to the other Cleveland stations that air multiple teams' games.

Also, Jeff Phelps is a Cavs employee. He is listed in the Cavs media guide (which is on the Cavs website) along with the other employees. Remember, the team controls their announcers...also being on the Cavs games is what Phelps is best known for, thus that's why it should be noted, rather than just as a generic "Fox Sports Ohio personality".

Vjmlhds 16:32, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

If you wish to discuss edits made to WKRK-FM, then please discuss them on that article's talk page. See Talk:WKRK-FM#Phelps.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 19:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

NE Ohio

Alright, so now that we've embarked on making this article more comprehensive, you have any particular section you'd care to work on? We need something on the economy, and a general histroical narrative. Have at it if you want. I'll tell Jon (Ridinger) as well... Ryecatcher773 (talk) 01:07, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll contribute when/where I can. To start, I'll go through the roughly 2500+ combined Greater Cleveland and Northeast Ohio "What links here" wikilinks. Jon is probably better suited to constructing the overall historical narrative.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 01:13, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Outstanding. Anything you can contribute will be appreciated. Thank you. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 01:38, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Viacom Logo anyone?

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Cavs

Lebron James bolting, and the 26 game losing streak are probably the 2 most famous/infamous events in franchise history.

How can you not include them in the team's culture and lore section?

Vjmlhds 13:39, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Please keep this discussion on the appropriate talk page at Template talk:Cleveland Cavaliers#Culture and Lore.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 17:37, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

ESPN Cleveland

Good Karma brands their entire Cleveland operation as ESPN Cleveland. This is on top of branding each station individually (ESPN 850 WKNR and ESPN 1540 KNR2). Vjmlhds 19:40, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Exactly. "ESPN Cleveland" refers to Good Karma's "entire Cleveland operation", not any one station. Also, please discuss changes made to articles on article talk pages, not my talk page. Future comments about articles (when discussing on an article talk page is appropriate) will be ignored.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 02:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

WMMS logo (April 2012)

On WMMS's website, it looks like they've gone back to the traditional "Buzzard" logo and done away with (or at least de-emphasized) the road sign/orange wing logo. Could you tranfer the current logo to the article, I'm absolutely clueless how to go about that kind of thing. Thanks. Vjmlhds 22:13, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

The station webmaster frequently rotates the image in the upper left corner of the official site's main page; the station Facebook page uses the new logo (a fan page which, in many ways, is now more important than the official site itself); and the station's page/feed on iHeartRadio uses the new logo. There's also a new Rover billboard up in at least two locations which uses the new logo (I-90/OH-2 westbound near the Cleveland foodbank, I-71 southbound between Downtown and Hopkins Airport). Most importantly — and let's be clear on this point — there is not a single reliable source to verify that WMMS has changed its primary logo. So to answer your question, no. And if you're unsure how exactly to upload images, start with Wikipedia:Uploading images. Feel free to ask questions, though I'll probably direct you to an administrator.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 01:14, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Personal attacks

I saw what User 76 was saying about you. You and me have gone round and round and then some, but what that guy did was uncalled for. That was horrible. Vjmlhds 02:13, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Please note that I have already contacted another user, User:Calabe1992, regarding this situation. I could be wrong, but the anonymous editor you refer to ("that guy") seems to share a number of similarities with you: use of personal attacks (examples here, here, and here); general unwillingness to discuss issues on talk pages; living in the Cleveland area; etc. If in fact you are this anonymous editor, please edit under your own account. Thank you.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 02:30, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

That guy was actually my 19 year old cousin who was using my computer...he saw my wiki page and all my edits, and he thought he was being cute to go on pages I usually go on. He confessed it to me because he was laughing about what he did. Levdr, we argue about content all the time, but I don't go THERE with personal stuff. This is what happens when you let people use your stuff. Bobby "The Brain" Heenan was right--family is like fish...after three days, they stink! I am so sorry C.J. did this...God this crap blows! Vjmlhds 02:46, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll take you on your word this time.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 02:47, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) WP:BROTHER. I seriously doubt your story. In short, quit the personal attacks and the misuse of the IP. Calabe1992 02:49, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I know...it looks bad, but I just got plain old punked by someone who was being supposedly funny, by being an idiot and not realizing/caring it come back on me. All I know is there won't be a next time, because my laptop is now off limits to people that aren't me. Vjmlhds 02:58, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

So your cousin has been using your IP even to make edits like these? Awfully similar to your edits. Calabe1992 03:03, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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WMMS/99X

I re-edited a few sections on WMMS. Even though 99X doesn't represent 100.7 entirely, it should still be referenced in the infobox since it's on HD2 and has a website and translator. Same with the Template:Cleveland Radio|Cleveland radio template (link to templates as I have below). --Radiokid1010 (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The new Cleveland translator W256BT is represented in the infobox — in the "Translator(s)" field; I've also included information in the lead. As for {{Cleveland Radio}}, please remember that navboxes generally only list articles, not topics within articles (especially one already represented — in this case, WMMS). WP:NAVBOX  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 17:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I understand 99.1 does not yet have an article, but it should still be represented in the template as it is currently being broadcast via HD2. --Radiokid1010 (talk) 18:03, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

"It should" is not an acceptable substitute for Wikipedia editing guidelines.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 18:05, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, "should" is too strong of a word. But considering that 99.1 is still primarily broadcasting, doesn't that qualify for it to be added? --Radiokid1010 (talk) 18:09, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The issue is much simpler than you're are making it out to be: 1. per WP:NAVBOX, only a subject *with its own article* can be included in a navbox, and 2. per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Radio_Stations#Rebroadcaster_templates, "Translators should be included in the parent station's article and should not have their own page." Also, I've noticed that you have a history of being blocked for failing to follow general WP guidelines and policy; and that you're not a member of WP:WPRS (simply an indication that you are not entirely familiar with our wikiproject's editing guidelines).  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 18:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, I try my best. And I've learned alot since the incidents in 2009. --Radiokid1010 (talk) 18:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Good. Keep at it.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 18:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Concerning 99X, maybe you would know the answer to this question; Could 99.1 eventually get a set of regular call letters instead of the mishmash W256BT it has now, or (since it's really a translator) is it stuck with what it has? Vjmlhds (talk) 14:15, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

If you format your question properly per WP:TALK and WP:INDENT, I'll tell you.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 14:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Count the number of colons (:) used in the comment above yours. Add one. Add text. Sign.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 14:12, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for formatting your question properly. This aids other editors if/when they join this conversation and provides proper context to the discussion. Regarding your question — I don't really know, but my guess is no. My understanding is that radio translators (FX stations) cannot simply switch to full power FM stations; their purpose is to extend the range of "real" analog stations, nothing more. Clear Channel is using this low power translator like a "real" analog station b/c of the current lack of regulation; it's a loophole stations are taking advantage of all across the country. This station enhances both the WMMS and iHeartRadio brands on the cheap. I seriously doubt CC has the desire and/or the resources to invest in a seventh full-power radio station in the Cleveland market, no matter how cheap it is to plug an ipod into a transmitter. Advertisers just aren't buying air time for the alternative demographic. They're broke and drowning in debt.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 14:36, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

User:Vjmlhds May 2012

Nice job putting the new article together. Vjmlhds 21:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. That said, please follow standard talk page guidelines. WP:TALK Future posts failing to conform will be ignored.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 21:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

WMMS and the Browns

I'm sorry... I actually forgot HOW to respond on here... hadn't done it for awhile. o.O

As per the infobox, it was likely a typo on my part that I forgot to correct a long time ago and never thought to do so until you brought it up.

Here's the thing: I don't know as to what year WMMS started carry Browns games in a simulcast with WHK. It had to have been at some point in the early-mid 70s because there were issues about outlying Browns affiliates close to the market - such as WBEA-FM Elyria, then a sister to WEOL who dropped the affiliation because of encroachment from WMMS (this was from reading WBEA/WEOL's corporate cousin, the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram, through their PDF archives... it was a few years ago, so I can't remember off the top of my head what URL they are posted at, or if it's still there - it's more to buttress my original point of view). Nor would I know if WMMS' tenure as a simulcast of WHK's games was ever a continuous one.

But for me to say that it was in 1968 probably owed more to WMMS' early heavily simulcasting of WHK during overnights and (possibly) weekends. They **might** have carried a few games as a result, but probably not enough to merit being a co-flagship. No matter how it's sliced, it's still wrong. My apologies.

As per the exact year, I'm presuming that would have to be resolved somewhere in the Browns media guides. The Browns had a complex radio history in their early years, going from one station to another and another.

That being said, I don't dispute what Mike O. has in Radio Daze (I've met him in person before - he's a really awesome guy). There are some other former staffers at WMMS I could contact as well if needed. Again, my apologies... I'm more than a bit rusty with the Wiki talk pages.

-Nate- Nathan Obral (talk) 20:29, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I also temporarily blocked out (using the <! -- -- > style code) that infobox until this is resolved. Nathan Obral (talk) 20:35, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

1) Consider reviewing Help:Using talk pages. 2) Per talk page guidelines, please respond to messages I post on your talk page on your talk page. Likewise, respond to messages I post on my talk page on my talk page. 3) I searched the Chronicle-Telegram archive via NewspaperARCHIVE.com and couldn't find anything to support that WMMS aired the Browns at any time from 1968 to 1984. In regards to WBEA/107.3 FM, that station's/WEOL's program director was asked by WHK in 1971 to broadcast the Browns on WBEA instead of WEOL. The WEOL/WBEA program director said no to Browns on WBEA on FM. WHK said no to the Browns on WEOL on AM. The result was no Browns in Elyria on WEOL or WBEA for the 1971 and 1972 seasons; instead, WEOL aired Bengals games. By 1973, WHK again allowed WEOL to carry the Browns and dropped the WBEA issue. Note that just as WEOL/WBEA did not want to air the Browns on FM in Elyria, neither did WHK want to air the Browns on FM in Cleveland (WMMS referred to in 1971 article as "WHK's FM outlet"). That's all I could find. Since I can't find anything to verify the Browns aired on WMMS from 1968 to 1984, I've removed that content from the WMMS article.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 03:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

WMMS/OMW

Seriously...you're gonna start questioning OMW's credibility just because he picked up my "man cave" term to describe WMMS' rock/talk/sports mix? You wouldn't have done that if somebody else came up with the term, I'd bet you anything. Vjmlhds 02:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Please follow standard talk page guidelines. If you're responding to an ongoing discussion related to WMMS content, please respond in the appropriate section on the WMMS talk page (WP:TALK). Future posts failing to conform to standard talk page guidelines will be ignored. Thank you.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 05:34, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to put this as kindly as I can...sometimes I think you just enjoy turning this into a urinating contest (I could have used another term, but I kept it clean). Vjmlhds 13:01, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

The following edit has been moved to User_talk:Vjmlhds#Clarification to keep that discussion on a single talk page. (WP:MULTI) Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 16:32, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't wish to bicker anymore. Let's just agree to disagree on this...I'm big picture guy, you're miuntae guy, so there's always gonna be a little head-butting in our philosophies, but you're right in continuing back and forth helps no one. On this one...I'll stand down for the sake of keeping peace. And for the record, I'm not OMW. OMW has no agendas. He just reports news from Cleveland media, which quite frankly no one else bothers with anymore. Vjmlhds 13:39, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Ohio Media Watch

You went through every TV and radio station and removed every reference from Ohio Media Watch?!?!

Jesus, dude...Don't tell me it was due to WP:THISTHATORTHEOTHER. You were perfectly fine with OMW until the "man cave" thing last week, and now all of a sudden you got a bug up your butt about it.

You can throw all the wiki-ese at me you want about it, but it really does come off like you threw a hissy-fit and wanted to teach OMW a lesson.

Perception is reality.

Vjmlhds 00:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I've had doubts about the reliability of ohiomediawatch.wordpress.com for a long time now. Your latest "mancave" edits just brought the issue out into the open. And please, try to comment on content, not editors.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 23:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Skratch 'N Sniff

Are my changes okay with you? I was working on a draft several months ago and was afraid to submit it. But you beat me to it and I see the article has been accepted.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:24, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Content looks fine (at Skratch 'N Sniff). You may want to find another source for the Ryker quote. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 21:35, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't sure such a quote would be allowed, but it's such a good quote I hated to not include it. Thanks, and thanks for your work. I didn't have to do much.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem. And I don't plan to remove the quote. Others might. Just a heads up. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 21:39, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

I understand.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

User space deletion

Hey, Levdr1, I noticed on recent changes that you marked a page in your userspace for deletion as G7. That's totally fine and will work without problems, but there's another tag, U1, that's specifically for deletion of userspace pages; it might help you get a faster response time. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:28, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I never noticed that before. I guess I never made it past the "General" section. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 15:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Random question...

...But are you a member of the JCL/SCL? I come in peace, but I'm just curious to see if the article can be improved from its current state. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 07:38, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I am familiar with both the Junior and Senior Classical Leagues. In regards to content, I don't see any reason to list past officers in the National Junior Classical League article — they're just not very notable. Now if you find reliable sources which specifically name past officers (more than just passing references), and why they are important to the general subject of NJCL, then maybe you could add such content in prose form. Otherwise, I don't see this happening. ... And in the future, please discuss article content on article talk pages. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 07:59, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm a member of the SCL and was just wondering if there was another person out there who knows the ins and outs of what goes on at various events (i.e., how these things are going to be referenced). Also, is there any way that you could fix your signature, as it is incredibly hard to read. Thanks, and I hope you have a great day! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 08:07, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

If there's a reliable source out there — online, print, or some other medium — I'll find it. Google news and Google books are always good places to start. As for my signature, how exactly is it hard to read? Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 08:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

All I see is black, unless I move the screen to within a foot of my face to see the text clearly. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 08:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Maybe there is something wrong with your screen. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 08:26, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

It could be, but if I'm seeing it, then others might have an issue with it as well. Still, dark on dark might not be helpful for those on the Wiki who are getting older. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 08:38, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Bright white text. Bright red text. Black background. There is no "dark on dark". And yours is the first and only complaint I've received in a year. Again, maybe it's your screen. Maybe you're using an older operating system or web browser. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 08:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Nope. Windows 7, IE 9. I figured it out though, as it seems to be something you did recently to it. Here is a screenshot. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 09:02, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh right IE doesn't recognize shortened hex codes still I think. That would be it. (stalking cause Kevin asked me, as a visually impaired user, to verify his issue and I couldn't replicate it) sonia (talk) 09:06, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Full hex then. Thanks. Levdr1lostpassword (talk) 09:10, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Start date of WEBN Cincinnati

The starting date of radio station WEBN in Cincinnati was today, August 30, in 1967, and not August 31, as published in the source used by Wikipedia. I know this to be accurate because I recently contacted Frank Wood Jr. (son of the original owner and manager of the station from 1969 into the 1990s) in order to confirm this and other facts about the station's history when talking on the air today about the station's 45th birthday.

If you wish to contact Mr. Wood to confirm the date, please let me know and I will send you his e-mail address.

Wikithings (talk) 00:45, 31 August 2012 (UTC)Wikithings