Talk:Jíbaro (Puerto Rico)

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Hi everyone, I erased the following data from the article:

"Jíbaro is also commonly used to denote the Shuar, groups of Indians living in the upper Amazon regions of Ecuador and Peru, but it is considered an insult."

This affirmation is a mistake. The Jíbaro people don´t consider this name as an insult. Jíbaro is the name this group is known in the Peruvian rainforest. Shuar is a group that belongs to the Jíbaro family (similar in tradition, not completely) but they lived in the rainforest of Ecuador. --Evelyn Zuñiga 12:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Picture

We need a picture, people, I suggest we start searching for one.

a picture of what? a Jibaro?? it's people like Rita Moreno..Jennifer Lopez...Hector Lavoe upper class whites are fair skinned with light eyes and hair...many having reddish/blonde hair some jibaros are a mix of native & white(mestizos) while others are gitano & white hence the darker features. a child of a Jibaro & African is often called a Moreno because the look Moorish. a child of a Jibaro & white is seen as white. --Lupe

We should be careful when using the passive voice. To say that a child of a Jibaro (assuming the Jibaro is non-white) and a white is "seen as white" is inaccurate. Who is doing the seeing? As someone who was a white Puerto Rican, and grew up in the white sub-culture on the island, we did not see anyone who was a mixture of white and non-white as "white," despite what the voluminous social literature about Puerto Rico seems to imply. A mixed-race person was always a "grifo" or "grifa" (ugly words, I now recognize), no matter what his or her phenotypic appearance showed.65.81.79.71 (talk) 16:17, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In Spanish

I really think someone should write an article of the jíbaro in Spanish, since it WOULD be more appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garc1993 (talk • contribs) 15:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My concern with this part of "What or Who is a Jibaro" and with ascribing Puerto Rican culture in its entirety to Spain and Europe. We should be careful when writing important articles like this to be unbiased and accurate. Rural folk in Puerto Rico are of all backgrounds. We cannot dismiss a persons rural background simply because they were not land owners or renters. Even if one worked the land of the rural elite one lived the life ascribed to the so called Jibaro. Poorly cited or the lack of citations are important issues. If we cannot find enough citations then we should let that be known so that the reader can exercise caution when interpreting this information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayuka (talk • contribs) 18:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Run away slaves

Thee only people tobe slave in Puerto Rico was indios(Tainos)..Africans & Muslims(arabs/gitanos) a white person of fair skin and hair would have never needed to "run" to the mountains to escape anything unless it was a crime. --Lupe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.114.15 (talk) 18:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lupe Indenture servitude was not an anglo condition. Also, the challenge with the term Jibaro and ascribing it to only people of European descent negates the existence of Puerto Ricans of all backgrounds. Africans as well as Tainos lived in the mountains of puerto rico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.6.12.16 (talk) 22:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

can't link to this page

I can't figure out how to link to this page. The URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jibaro automatically redirects to "Jivaroan peoples," and from that page one can follow the link to this page, which also has the same URL (except the 'i' has an accent mark over it, which I have no easy way of typing on my computer). Someone with more knowledge of Wikipedia's workings should really fix this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.31.246 (talk) 19:10, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed - El Johnson (talk) 18:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]