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Rick L Evans

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Individual is not interdependently notable Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:22, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 00:41, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 00:41, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean by "Individual is not interdependently notable". He is the current lead singer/manager of the Classic imperials. All you have to do is look at their website http://www.theclassicimperials.com to see who Rick is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JeffJansen (talk • contribs) 12:14, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I mean. He's notable because he's a member of the group, but doesn't carry any individual notability. Which means, material about him could be included in the band article, but there's not enough to have an article of his own. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:33, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Try this: Nationally known singer/speaker

Credits: 15 years as a consultant and counselor to nationally known churches and International organizations. Associations include Billy Graham, Promise Keepers, The Harvest Crusades with Greg Laurie, The Californians, The Crownsmen, The Dennis Agajanian Band, The Imperials, and more than 10 years as a featured member of The Franklin Graham Crusade team. Recorded with Manna Music, Maranatha Records, Word Entertainment, and others.

All this was done without the Imperials.

Lead Singer for The Imperials www.theimperials.com President of Living In Faith www.livinginfaith.com President of Impact www.411impact.com

What other notoriety are you looking for? Just because you are not aware of the impact does not mean there is not an impact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JeffJansen (talk • contribs) 15:17, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He needs to receive attention (reliable third-party sources) aside from working with The Imperials to be considered notable. In some cases, a group's lead singer will have an article if he has received substantial coverage. It's unlikely he would have received significant attention for being a pastor. If he has been a "consultant and counselor to nationally known churches and International organizations", there needs to be third-party evidence of this. Lastly, recording with several record labels doesn't automatically make you notable as you would also need third-party evidence. I suggest visiting Wikipedia:Notability. SwisterTwister talk 06:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, No significant coverage as defined by WP:GNG found in news or book sources, therefore failing that subject cannot pass WP:MUSICBIO or WP:BAND. The subject appears to have written three books, however he does not appear to pass WP:AUTHOR.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:21, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to The_Imperials#Classics_return_as_The_Imperials - It seems he is a fairly new member of The Imperials so he probably hasn't made a significant impact but Google News found two press releases (first and second result from the top) with the original press release here, and one news article here (seems to briefly talk about him, relevant content is not shown in preview). A different search provided this which also talks a little about him. A search including the Pathways Community Church also didn't provide anything relevant but this isn't surprising. Searches with both his company Living In Faith and Franklin Graham Festival provided nothing relevant but a search with The Crownsmen (another music group he was a member of) found this brief mention. Another search with Billy Graham provided some results but they are vague and they may be irrelevant to this Rick Evans. Aside from that, I haven't found much to improve this article. With no significant career or reliable third-party sources, the article would read like an advertisement. SwisterTwister talk 06:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep
This article is valid and should remain in place

One source of third party verification are the recordings recorded and the history of those recordings. Additionally the combined notoriety of this individual and the documentable history is outlined not only in the websites online, but also through other sources, only some of which are mentioned in this discussion. Add to that that there are many articles, on Wikipedia, that have been written with less proof than this individual. Restate- Valid third party verification is clearly in place and exists on the web sites and the articles already listed and already written about this individual. I do agree that this article can be improved and needs to continue to ebb and flow for resolution to the issues raised. That said… This article should remain in place

One correction to the above discussion. As G.M. of the Imperials, not only is Rick Evans the Lead Singer of the group but has been involved in the group for decades. That is not reflected in the history of The Imperials, but it is a true part of the history. I mention this because it is necessary to explain that Rick Evans is not just a New Member of the group, but is the only Member of the group listed on its Board of Directors. He is not just a new member but rather the driving element for any continuation of the group.

Many of the accomplishment(s) of this individual were part of history in his time with Billy Graham and Franklin Graham. On his own he also recorded 7 records and has been on television to many times to count. But his significance is the collective of it all, although any individual accomplish certainly measures up to the criteria outlined in WP:MUSICBIO or WP:BAND

Additional Clarification. The only Rick Evans to work with Dr. Graham was this Rick Evans. So the comment that "it may be irrelevant" is corrected to show, at least, a beginning to the research in this area. It is certainly a third party verification and meets the criteria for the page and the continuance of this article. some results — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lee Karnbach (talk • contribs) 12:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]