Talk:Cloning

Section 3.3.2: Tadpoles are animals

This sentence at the end of section 3.3.2 does not make sense: "Though Dolly was the first cloned animal, the first vertebrate to be cloned was a tadpole in 1952." Tadpoles (the larval stage of amphibians) are animals, therefore if tadpoles have been cloned before, Dolly is not the first cloned animal. Maybe it should say: "Though Dolly was the first cloned mammal, the first vertebrate to be cloned was a tadpole in 1952." Does anybody know if there has been other instances of mammal cloning before Dolly ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pijeth (talk • contribs) 09:24, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

My bad. I meant to say "mammal", not "animal". I've fixed it now. Gabbe (talk) 09:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Dolly was not the first cloned mammal.

Despite the fact that the article states this. It even says about 6 sentences later that the first mammal cloned was a mouse! Can someone fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.72.87 (talk) 20:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Dolly was cloned from an adult cell, the mouse from an embryonic cell. Thats a big difference and should be explained in the article. AIRcorn (talk) 02:25, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree that is stated very well that Dolly was first cloned mammal from an adult cell, but is there posibillity somebody to write about first cloning ever, because is hard to find evidence that don't say that Dolly is the first cloned mammal. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kisstudent17 (talk • contribs) 07:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Rule of Thumb?

There is no reference to any "rule of thumb" for restoration of extinct species. Just who determines the rules? --71.245.164.83 (talk) 00:29, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Suppose the "rule" was such that no species should be genetically restored until former habitat is first restored - why would that prevent the restoration of any species destroyed by man, such as the Passenger Pigeon or the Great Auk? There is plenty of existing habitat - they were lost primarily by the lack of regulations. Regulations already protect hundreds (if not thousands) of species from extinction. --71.245.164.83 (talk) 00:29, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Relevant article

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/business/global/30got.html story about cloned fighting bulls

Dhollm (talk) 07:26, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

This article does not state the history of cloning. It first originated from early farmers to reproduce fruits that were better than the others. :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.125.48.223 (talk) 19:21, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Cloning is distinct from artificial selection, if that's what you're referring to. Gabbe (talk) 02:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Strange but True

The 2010 Iowa State Fair Grand Champion Steer was a clone of the 2008 Champion. Champion steer at Iowa State Fair continues reign I'm not sure it's something to put in the article, or if it is where to place it. --Aflafla1 (talk) 05:53, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Binary Clones (science fiction)

In the science fiction section, it might be worth noting the concept of binary clones (DNA from two individuals are combined, to create an artificial offspring). It's less common in science fiction, than standard cloning (i.e. one donor), but common enough for it being worth mentioning. Binary clones include the metacrisis Doctor (a hybrid of the Doctor's Time Lord DNA and Donna Noble's human DNA), seen in Journey's End, the daughter of T'Pol and Charles Tucker III on Star Trek Enterprise. Along with comic book characters as Superboy, Nate Grey, X-23 and Ultimate Spider-Woman.

Weasel Words citation in final paragraph

The sentences following the citation make the citation itself nullified, if I understand things correctly. The citation refers to an ambiguous 'many' and what follows the citation defines that 'many'. Is the citation still required here? 72.228.51.242 (talk) 11:13, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Extinct

Should the cloning of extinct animals have it's own article? Here is an idea for an article name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.98.128.11 (talk) 02:44, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Deleting bit that contradicts the source given

Hi guys - I'm about to make a change to this paragraph:

"Pyrenean Ibex (2009) was the first "extinct" animal (while the species is not extinct, nor even endangered, no living examples of the Pyrenean subspecies had been known since 2000) to be cloned back to life; the clone lived for seven minutes before dying of lung defects.[33]"

I'm going to delete the bit in brackets because it contradicts the source article provided. The source says, "The Pyrenean ibex, a form of wild mountain goat, was officially declared extinct in 2000... extensive hunting during the 19th century reduced their numbers to fewer than 100 individuals. They were eventually declared protected in 1973, but by 1981 just 30 remained in their last foothold in the Ordesa National Park..."

If anyone wants to restore the claim that the animal is "not extinct, nor even endangered", then he or she must provide a source at this point, because the source given says the opposite.Señor Service (talk) 00:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, scratch that - I think I misunderstood it. On reflection, I guess that "species" refers to the Ibex, which is still around - with only the Pyrenean *sub*species being extinct? Left as is.Señor Service (talk) 00:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Birds and reptiles

Is there any reason why birds and reptiles haven't been cloned? I'm surprised that chickens haven't been cloned.