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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by AceLT (talk | contribs) at 19:06, 22 May 2006 (→All In The Family). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

I LOVED Sammy Davis, Jr., and miss him.

As an "informal" poll, what are his favorite songs from his fans? Mine is "The Candyman".

May he rest in peace.

Maybe his famous scene on the sitcom All in the Family should be mentioned? 67.182.22.63 00:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Satanist?

Sammy here is listed on the List of Satanists page. The talk page has a citation, but I can't really confirm it. Googling gave me quite a lot of hits, but I really couldn't tell if any of them stretched beyond the conspiracy theorists that pervade the internet. Anyone know anything about this? I was hoping snopes.com would help, but they haven't addressed it. I guess it's at least a confirmed rumor, and he's an "alleged" Satanist anyway, which is not the same thing. I'd like to hear from other people (and not just "I like Sammy, he's great, he can't be a Satanist", but something a bit more substantial). -R. fiend 14:28, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I was rather startled by that in the article. I had never read or heard anything like that about him. It doesn't seem to be at his IMDB page or much else.--T. Anthony 14:22, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I see the official "Church of Satan" group and his niece allege it. As people never tell untrue stories of their uncles it must be valid. Like the claim Einstein was a Christian Scientist.--T. Anthony 14:26, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Sammy was a good friend of Jayne Masfield (actress) who was involved with satanists once in her life. He simply can't be labeled a satanist by associatiom..--XLR8TION

I know my own memory will not be considered a reliable source but I remember Sammy being the Phil Donahue show saying that he used to keep one of his fingernails painted red to show his allegiance to the Church of Satan. He was promoting his autobiography at the time so it may be written in there MrBlondNYC 11:12, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:satanist?

NO he couldn't have been one, since he was jewish, lik it is said he converted in a hospital.

Jewish

Please do not remove the links to Davis' Jewishness. [1] Rklawton 04:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good point in the edit summary. There is no contradiction between being Black and Jewish. I dated many years a lady who was both, from birth. gidonb 04:12, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Puerto Rican Descent

Sammy Davis Jr., was of Puerto Rican descent as stated by himself. Just because one person claims differently doesn't mean a thing. Here are three of the dozens of reliable sites which back up his own Puerto Rican claim. Bio of Elvira Sanchez in IMDB, Sammy Davis Jr. and Tribute to Sammy Davis Jr. . Tony the Marine 21:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The book has extremely good reviews, and I have read parts of it on Amazon and it seems highly unlikely that the author was mistaken. [2], [3], [4], [5]. Arniep 22:18, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I have tried to reason with User:Arniep in regard to his continous reverts in the Sammy Davis Jr. and Elvera Sanchez articles, see:[6]. Arniep insists on posting his version and his version only. Arniep cites as proof the following transcript from an unathoritized bio, a book written without the permission of the Davis Estate by Wil Haygood. The transcript can be found here:[7]. For some unknown reason Arniep refuses to accept the overwhelming fact that every reference to Sammy Davis Jr., and his mother point to the fact that Elvera Sanchez was of Puerto Rican descent and "not" Cuban. Nor Arniep or the author of the book cite official documnets to back up these claims.

These are only three sites of the many which state that Davis' mother was Puerto Rican: Bio of Elvira Sanchez in IMDB, Sammy Davis Jr. and Tribute to Sammy Davis Jr.. In every other biography of Sammy Davis Jr., it is stated that his ancesters were Afro-American and Puerto Rican. In his own autobiography "Sammy : The Autobiography of Sammy Davis, Jr. by Sammy Davis, Burt Boyar, Jane Boyar", Sammy Davis claims that his mother was Puerto Rican. How could we doubt his own words?

Another thing, tghe author claims that Davis denied his "Cuban" ancestry because of the "Anti-Castro" sentiment. This does not make any sense since it would be almost impossible to keep his whole family and his friends quiet for so many years. If that was the case then way didn't Desi Arnaz of "I Love Lucy" fame, Cesar Romero and Celia Cruz do the same?

I have tried to reach a "middle ground" with User Arniep by offering these new versions: Elvera Sanchez and Sammy Davis Jr. as a solution but, Arniep refuses to cooperate and instead of having an open dialogue about the issue, continues to revert.

I have no personal interest in either article. My main concern is that commonly accepted facts and not "hearsay" be posted in Wikipedia articles. To quote Sammy Davis himself: "I'm colored, Jewish and Puerto Rican. When I move into a neighborhood, I wipe it out!" Tony the Marine 01:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The book got horrible reviews on Amazon.com. Four readers rated nagtively. Furthermore, the author wrote a book on Adam Clayton Powell Sr., another famous African-American who married a Puerto Rican woman and had a Puerto Rican son. His family says that the autobiography is unbased. Please site documents. A book review is not good enough. I think we have made this clear to you using examples. You have either little research skills or are simply ignorant. XLR8TION

Tony and XLR, please familiarise yourselves with our verifiability policy and the supporting reliable sources guideline. Specifically, they say that statements by the subject of the article do not supercede published, verifiable documents. In the case of a conflict between what the subject of an article claims and what external documentation states, the external documentation (assuming it is a reliable source) is given precedence. In such cases, it is appropriate to state that the subject claims one thing while other sources claim another. — Saxifrage ✎ 23:41, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All In The Family

May want to mention his guest apparance on "All In The Family" including the famous kiss... http://www.tvacres.com/sex_techniques_racial.htm

Goes well with his pushing for racial equality.


Other

Citations needed on extra statements concerning religious. No original research on religious views allowed.

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