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May 2013

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Nazism

Hello R-41,

thank you for answering my concerns of your edits being too detailed and getting off the point, by condensing them. Still, I think that the whole article with more than 100 kB is too long and too detailed and needs some work in order to focus on the important points. Exporting material about some rather marginal issues into sub-articles might be a solution. Reproaching you with doing synthesis was premature, as I actually had not checked the sources you cited. I am sorry for that. However, I agree with User:N-HH that the concept of the "proletarian nation" was not a major point of Nazi ideology. Please be careful to distinguish issues that are, according to consensus among historians, defining points of this ideology and those which are only mentioned here and there, but not in summaries of what actually defines Nazism. Kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 11:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there are a great many mainstream sources for the "proletarian nation" item - and the idea that the article is "too long" is nicely erroneous - it was once far too long but is far shorter than when it had lots of irrelevant "stuff" fluffing it up. Collect (talk) 11:29, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion is not whether or not to mention "proletarian nation" in the article, but only whether or not to include it in the lead section. --RJFF (talk) 15:10, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Have you looked at the number of potential sources making a point of it? Seems quite mainstream from here, but YMMV. Cheers. Collect (talk) 15:44, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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AN/I WIKIHOUNDING by Collect?

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

Ubi apparently failed to read WP:HOUND which he is trying to invoke. I suggest flickr is not a "reliable source" for claims of fact etc. which he ignored in his massive CANVASS here. As you were not in any way "involved" his notice was a teensy bit improper. Cheers. Collect (talk) 17:08, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I sent notices to editors taking part in the Fascism discussion, including Darkstar1st. I don't see how sending a template AN/I notice is canvassing. It's not clear why you suddenly showed up on those three articles in rapid succession and deleted portions of my contributions, but aside from the Xeno RFC/U Talk page, we have only interacted at the Fascism Talk page. Anyway, the thread was closed, and I would hope that to be the end of this matter.--Ubikwit 連絡 見学/迷惑 17:48, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Can you tell me how Glover Garden is related to Fascism? Or the discussion at WP:RS/N being Fascism related in any way whatsoever? Nope - all you did was clearly violate WP:CANVASS is about as blatant a manner as possible. I would note your "turkey" of blocks in a period of the past six months .. which is close to a record. I fear you are an inveterate edit warrior who is used to adding unsourced or poorly sourced claims to miscellaneous article. Cheers. Collect (talk) 18:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop arguing with each other on my talk page.--R-41 (talk) 18:59, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous editing

Please confirm whether you are now currently using this IP address to edit anonymously from, having previously and until recently – including subsequently to being blocked for sockpuppetry – also used this IP address. N-HH talk/edits 08:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Were the edits done in any way to imply they were disparate persons? Were they used to evade any restrictions placed on R-41? This looks like your goal is to make an SPI on the editor and not to ask a simple question, alas. Collect (talk) 12:53, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well he was previously blocked for sockpuppetry and the edits this time round were potentially done to evade criticism and scrutiny. Even if that is not outright improper use of different accounts, it comes pretty close to it. My goal is stop sloppy and error-strewn content being added from multiple accounts, without clarity as to the extent of the problem and without any one place to hold the individual responsible to task. N-HH talk/edits 13:40, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
N-HH, you are being constantly negative and combative, now using more negative terms to describe my contributions such as "sloppy" and "error-strewn", why not tell me what the errors are so that I can correct them and the problem is resolved? I was blocked for for sockpuppetry for using an anon account to attempt a WP:CLEANSTART due to me getting angry and having an uncivil conversation with you, that didn't work. I have apologized to you on your talk page for that. I did not use those accounts as sockpuppetry, I did not sign in, I've seen it happen even to administrators forgetting to sign in and then signing in. If you want to add constructive criticisms here or constructive advice on how to improve my editing then please do so. However if you you intend to vent personal frustrations about me in a combative and negative manner here, and if that is the case I am asking you now to please stop posting on my talk page as of now.--R-41 (talk) 20:09, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have filed a report on this matter at SPI.[1] TFD (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fascism blanking

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N-HH and TFD have said my content is worthless, so what's the point, I wasted years here, if it's no good then so be it, it's good to have it removed then.--R-41 (talk) 21:12, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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