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Hi Absolon: I noticed you undid the revision to the Savannah State University edit I imposed for the end date. I am not interested in getting into a lame edit war, but just so you know, I contacted the school and spoke with a representative who verified that the seal has not been discontinued. She went further to note that the website non-usage of the seal does not constitute discontinued use. The seal is embossed on college diplomas(degrees) awarded by the institution, college transcripts, and is used during official ceremonies and events. If you choose to keep the end date under the seal simply because it is no longer used on the website, that is incorrect. Colleges and Universities tend to use logos as well as their official seals in various ways. I've yet to see a traditional university emboss a logo on a transcript or a degree. If you have verified that savannah state embosses logos on their degrees now instead of the official seal, then I am mistaken. However, I seriously doubt that. Kind Regards liberallefty79

Stop readding the wrong image

The image that you continue to add to the 2012 Savannah State Tigers football team page cannot be used on season articles. Using it violates the non free image usage. That logo can only be used on main athletic pages and no season articles. Furthermore, saying that the free image that I have put on the page has been discontinued is completly wrong. It is no longer used as the helmet decal, but its the exact same SSU that the tiger is on top of. So please stop continuing to readd a longer that cannont be used and please stop removing a free image that can be used. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 12:12, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are incorrect. That image is no longer the athletic logo. The current logo includes the tiger image on the top. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 16:35, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The SSU logo that is a free image is the EXACT SAME LOGO!! as the new one just without the tiger. I didn't say that the SSU logo is the current logo but it is part of the current logo and since its just letters it is a free image and can be used. Look at most season artilcles, the images are mostly just script logos because they are free and can be used. This image can be used on this page and should be used. It makes the page look better and IS STILL IN THE CURRENT LOGO!! so to say its been discontinued is false.Bsuorangecrush (talk) 23:05, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with your opinion on the subject. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 00:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not my opinion, ITS A FACT!!! Just look at it!!!! Its the EXACT SAME LOGO!! The fact that you continue to remove it is bordering on being vandalism. It CAN be use and its a FREE image that SHOULD be used. You do not own that page and the fact that you keep removing a logo THAT IS a version of the current logo just without the tiger is INSANE!! LEAVE IT!! Plus, to say that image was discontinued is stupid! Its not only part of the new logo, but almost EVERY SCHOOL IN THE NATION has multiple versions of logos. Go ahead, look up any other schools logo at any other school in the nation, they all have multiple versions logos, including script logo which THIS LOGO IS!!Bsuorangecrush (talk) 05:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You obviously ignored my Talk Page note that "It's...totally...not...that...serious...". You are more than welcome to report my edits to an administrator if you feel I am in violation of some policy. If you are unsure of how to do this just leave a note below and can give you the instructions. In the mean time, I removed the image with the tiger until I can find the time to research your earlier assertion that the current official logo cannot be used on team season pages and I removed your image because it is no longer used by the university because of the copyright status. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 13:33, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I ignored your talk page note, thats like reading the iTunes agreement, you just click ok and ignore it. Your continued argument that it has been discontinued is INSANE!! Question:Is the SSU logo by its self the exact same logo that the tiger is on? There are only 2 answers to that: 1)No, and thus you are blind and I suggest you seem medical help right away or 2)Yes, its the same logo with out the tiger. If 2) is the answer then IT HAS NOT BEEN DISCONTINUED BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING RIGHT AT IT!!! Plus, ITS A SCRIPT LOGO!! Do you know how many schools have a free public domain script logo and a tradmarked logo? North Carolina has their NC logo, which is free because its just letters, and their trademarked logo that has the ram head over the NC. Duke has their D logo, which is free because its just a letter, and the D with the blue devil in the middle that is trademarked. Oregon State has an OS logo, which is free because its just letters, and their trademarked logo with the beaver head. Just because they have one logo does not make the other discontinued. SCHOOLS CAN HAVE MULTIPLE LOGOS!! FREE AND TRADEMARKED!!! The SSU logo that is free and SHOULD be used on this page and if you continue to say that it has been discontinued then you just flat are blind because you can't see it in the new logo. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 16:12, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In terms of legal usage of the logo the answer to your question is "No." The logo you are posting is not a registered trademark of the university, thus the use was discontinued. To use it on articles after it was discontinued is inaccurate information. I will continue to remove it until you are able to show me an established Wikipedia policy that authorizes the use inaccurate images in an article for decoration purposes.

On a separate note: Your continued personal attacks and name calling in your edit summaries and on this page in my opinion are uncivil and are in direct violation of Wikipedia's policy. I will not engage in any further discussion with you regarding this article or any other issue if you cannot elevate your tone to one of respect due to a fellow editor. We can disagree, but you should learn to do so civilly. 20:13, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

You can't trademark letters! It's free to use because its just letters! And how about addressing my question? Do you aknowledge that it is the exact same SSU that the tiger is on? Because if it is then it can be used because it IS THE EXACT SAME LOGO and has not been discontinued because we are LOOKING RIGHT AT IT!!! What about that do you not understand? Bsuorangecrush (talk) 20:48, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Join us at the NLM next week, either in person or online, to learn about NLM resources, hear some great speakers, and do some editing!

On Tuesday, 28 May there will be a community Wikipedia meeting at the United States National Library of Medicine in Bethesda, Maryland - with a second on Thursday, 30 May for those who can't make it on Tuesday. You can participate either in-person, or via an online webinar. If you attend in person, USB sticks (but not external drives) are ok to use.

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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (June 2013)

ICHTHUS

June 2013

From the Editor

Since its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, crowd-sourced development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called Ichthus.

Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.

From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.

We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.

Church of the month

The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.

Good articles and DYKs
The article Jesus received the good article mark last month, as did Cleeve Abbey. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the DYK section in May, namely St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St Patrick's Liverpool, Vlah Church, Freerslev Church, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu, St. Michael's Cathedral (Sitka, Alaska), St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St. Pierre Cathedral, Saint-Pierre, Mont Saint Michel Abbey, St Patrick's Church, Liverpool, Vlah Church, St Catherine of Siena Church, Cocking, Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción, Roholte Church, Notre Dame Cathedral, Taiohae, Leicester Abbey, Caracas Cathedral, Caldey Abbey, King's Mead Priory, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Hong Kong) andAll Saints' Church, Winthorpe, as well as the hymn What Wondrous Love Is This.

Focus on...

THE
HISTORICAL JESUS

Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.

In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.

The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.

From the bookshelf

Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence by Robert Van Voorst, 2000 ISBN 0-8028-4368-9

Just a few years after its publication, Van Voorst's book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - Blomberg and Harris separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.

Did you know...

... that Johann Sebastian Bach wrote the initials "S. D. G.", for Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handel at times did the same?

Calendar
The coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.

Help requests
Please let us know if there are any particular areas, either individual articles or topics, which you believe would benefit from outside help from other editors. We will try to include such requests in future issues.

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Harej (talk) 04:14, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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