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Nomination of Jill Kenton for deletion

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Bluford Series Deletion

I appreciate hearing criteria for impartiality, but there is a gray area here. These words HAVE been said by "objective" parties such as the ALA (American Library Association) and the Journal for Adolescent and Adult Literacy (JAAL), and the books have sold over 9 million copies, so there is something to the idea that they are popular! Links to these authorities were in the deleted page. I can edit to address your concerns, but what was on that page is what others--not me--have been saying.

Also, the content of those pages took a while to compile and does not exist anywhere else except on Wikipedia. While I certainly can edit to add reference and more objective or third party language, I would like to get back the content as a baseline from which to start editing. Is that possible?

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Nomination of Crescent English School for deletion

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Sheldon Chumir article

Thanks for your advice Orange Mike. I tried to nutrealize the article as you suggested. I agree, it was a bit flowerly. This was caused by probably two things. 1)Sheldon Chumir died in early 90's, as such most of his material are point form fragments that people he has worked with remember fondly. (a better source would be the data of his work with the 10 years he was an MLA), 2) He died with lol internet coverage, or no internet coverage. In this day and age of hash tags and tweets politicians can post. Chumir's work was lost to the sands of post internet politics (meaning. I'm going to have to march down to the Glenbow museum and manually scan these and file them over to the UofC, or something). I could barely find anything on him despite his work. I datamine this information and write descriptively with facts as per the scientific method, and let the reader make up his own mind. This was probably the reason why the orginal author of the article wrote a very non-descriptive article, because he had very little facts (only 3 sources), to go with. (because that's all that exists again... until we dive into that mountain of paperwork. The archieves were only since released in 2003. so this is the problem. Most news articles from wayyyy back machine don't exist anymore, and this is a sad fact of archaeology we lose our artifacts and data to the sands of time. Dust in the wind :_C Tears in the rain... As well, Calgary at the time was a small cities, he lived a remarkable life, but it was short. Thus he gets no grand memorial like say Martin Luthur King a fellow civil rights fighter.

So please understand we're trying to do the best we can with what little we have. (again until someone is brave enough to look the data up). But this man was remarkable, as was ANYONE who advocated to make the world a better place. He spoke about AIDs, when it was emerging, he spoke for the homeless, founded the civil liberties, and his foundation provides free care for the mentally ill. He was very active for ALL human rights. Certainly as the archives open up then we can scientifically express how significant he was. But thanks for your and future editors patience with this and other Canadian politican's pages.

Anyhow, can you please take a look at the page and let me know what you think now. Again it's under construction.... more data will flow in, as I make a more detailed search, and eventually soon the neutrality will be neutralized.... Thanks in advance. Sammycat

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Help with Rambus article

Hello Orangemike and others.

An employee of Rambus is attempting to heavily rewrite the article on the company "Rambus", changing the introduction to heavily favor the company. Although you had banned the account "Rambus Marketing", the banned account requested to be renamed to circumvent the ban. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RambusMarketing

The timing of the massive edits also coincides with a large bond offering for the company. Any help is appreciated with (what I believe) to be abuse of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve348 (talk • contribs) 13:12, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I note that there is an entire paragraph of criticisms regarding patent trolling where Rambus is not even mentioned in the source and the Lawsuits section starts with four paragraphs of unsourced contentious material. Using Wikipedia to promote ones personal views can also be abusive and if an editor has a relationship with the company, such as working for one of the company's Rambus has sued, this is also a COI. In any case, if Rambus is still their client, I know the PR agency that supports them. I'm emailing their CEO now to suggest they tell their client to knock it off. CorporateM (Talk) 14:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanx, CM (and thanks to Steve for bringing this one to my attention)! --Orange Mike | Talk 14:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

No dice on my end. That agency no longer support them. CorporateM (Talk) 14:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Rogue Regional Medical Center conflict of interest

Hey OrangeMike, I saw your note saying that I might have a conflict of interest with Rogue Regional Medical Center. I don't work for them, nor have I even been in the hospital actually! Just wanted to update some information about the hospitals and stuff in my area. I have been in contact with Bbb23 as well, am I blocked from the site, or what happened? Thanks! Roguerafter (talk) 01:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Please, let me ask you a question

I was reading St. Patrick's Day Article and I hit on this picture with and a sign that read: Everyone is Irish on March 17th. Does it have a particular meaning or just promotion? Sorry the bother. Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 20:09, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

While the sign is on a Guiness warehouse and Guiness certainly prospers from St. Patrick's Day as celebrated in the U.S. and Canada in particular, the motto (or one like it) is widespread wherever those of us of the Irish diaspora are thick upon the ground. Note that the sign with the sentence has no ™ or ® mark upon it, meaning they don't claim the sentiment or its manner of expression is original with them. At its worst, of course, this kind of thing leads to Plastic Paddy syndrome. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh, thanks Mike. I saw the article for Irish diaspora and now my new goal will be the translation into Spanish. Thanks very much for your answer. I like love Irish culture :D as my userbox says This user is a Hibernophile... :) Miss Bono ^[zootalk] 12:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Nova Express

Ho, regarding my change, i asked Person per eMail the day before (see tp). How can i get that verified? Thanks, regards, Gott (talk) 21:35, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Alas, it has to have been verifiably published in a reliable source. Now, if Person was to say the same thing publicly in his own blog, that would generally be considered a reliable source. Private e-mails, like conversations and unpublished personal letters, don't do it. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:35, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Diacritics

Then why are diacritics ILLEGAL for use in names in the USA, on the grounds that "they are not used in English"? Presidentbalut (talk) 02:56, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

That assertion is nonsense, unless you mean "illegal" in some sense that does not match those found in actual dictionaries. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:35, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Tucker

I never removed his commentary. You must be mistaken. All I did was edit the reference to mysticism, I was gonna remove it anyways since another editor kept miswording it. You shouldn't have removed the urban dictionary part though, since that's referenced, unless there's any god reason for removing it.-Taeyebaar (talk) 04:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

The Urban Dictionary is not considered even remotely a reliable source, least of all for literary terminology. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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Bearing in mind good faith, I'm not sure your characterization of "Notable people from Austria include Adolf Hitler; notable people from Wisconsin include Jeffrey Dahmer, Ed Gein and Scott Walker; notable people from Cambodia include Pol Pot." was appropriate. Especially when you take into account the question posed, and the fact that all but one of those people are serial killers, mass murderers, or other persons of that type. I personally think it's on the verge of straying afoul of WP:BLP policy. If these were completely random, my apologies, likewise if they were from a random list I couldn't find. Thanks ~Charmlet ^-talk- 21:27, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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He didn't say he was a WP admin--he just said he was an admin of the Scholarship Program, which is a frank admission of COI. If you want to edit what you said on my talk p, just do so. DGG ( talk ) 22:22, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Look more closely: he explicitly said, "I am an administrator of "Schulich Leader Scholarships" and a 'newbie' Wikipedia page administrator" (emphasis added). I think he has us confused with the various social media, where you control what is said about you. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

you're right, he said that--but I'm not sure he intended it in the sense you use, meaning rather that he is the administrator in the program responsible for getting them a WP page. At worst, he's confused the roles of author /editor and administrator. Since we call contributors "editors" not "authors" , which is a highly unusual way to use the word "editor", it is not unprecedented that he expects someone called an editor to be in charge of the material. That would be the case almost everywhere else in the world. we perhaps have ourselves at least partially to blame for using our own version of English. I try to avoid the word "editor" in talking to a newbie. DGG ( talk ) 00:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Mayhap. I deal with a stunning number of noobs who think they can control the article, image and/or presentation of their organization, company, musician, lover, client, whatever; so maybe I'm more sensitive to the possibility that we're facing that delusion again. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:42, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Reinstate Wikipedia Page

I would like to have the Wikipedia page titled Richard R. Pieper reinstated, so I can provide the proper references and citations.

--Suearmbruster (talk) 02:22, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Not done and will not be done The article was not deleted for lack of references and citations, but rather because the subject does not meet our standards of notability for an encyclopedia article. Additionally, it was written in a fulsome and smarmy manner that failed our requirements of neutrality and our prohibition on promotional editing. Bluntly, it read as if it were written by a press agent, or perhaps a doting mother with a business background. It was full of petty awards and trivial achievements, with nothing of substance to tell us that this person was ever actually notable in any way on a planet of six billion people (many of them good people who will never merit encyclopedia articls about them). --Orange Mike | Talk 14:14, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) More like 7 billion, jsyn. — Confession0791 ^talk 22:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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Requesting More Help on Article

I created the article Criss Jami and want input from another experienced user on what the article needs. User Tedickey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tedickey seems to bully my edits. First he added (arguably) necessary tags, but when I tried to fix the article according to those tags he restored those and added more which I can verify are false. The article needs a 3rd opinion. If it's that poor of an article then I do request deletion. Ahnold T (talk) 18:38, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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Need your help on Churches of Christ

Mike,

If you have time, there are some big edit recently done to the churches of Christ page taking out references to Restoration movement, which I think is defining for churches of Christ. What are your thoughts?

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help on deleted page "B-Open"

Hi Orangemike, i hope you are ok, yesterday i posted my first wikipedia page related to the company i work. my purpose is not to promote my company, rather to promote the greek software market (as you know, we are in middle of a crisis in the country and we really try hard to become more extrovert and competitive and to meet global standards). could you please assist me on selecting a better approach on the article, so it will not violate wikipedia's guidelines? would it be a solution if i add a sentence for competitors in the greek market? many thanks in advance for your time on this, kind regards, Dimitrios

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