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Help needed

Hi, Nomoskedasticity, and mazel tov for the knighthood recently confered on you by Haaretz! Your help as a user experienced in Orthodox Jewish issues is needed at the article about David Luchins I started not expecting any problems. But they showed up in the guise of several IPs, including one who claimed to be related to Luchins [1]. I would appreciate your help to get the article back on track in spite of the personel interest-interference. Thanks, Ajnem (talk) 14:42, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to help, but it looks like things have settled down there now. Is there something more that needs to be done? Nomoskedasticity (talk) 04:40, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the article IMO needs to correspond to other articles about people involved in controveries. The controversial aspect of Luchins engagement within the Jewish community was removed as a result of pressure from parties (allegedly) concerned. I do not believe in bowing to pressure as a Wikipedia policy. But I let things cool down before I make a further attempt to get the article on track. If you could help, it might keep the POV oriented parties away from the article and its talk page - or so I'd hope. Maybe you can put the article on your watchlist and "interfere" if interference is needed one way or the other? Cheers, Ajnem (talk) 09:31, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gary A. Olson

As per Wikipedia policy:

Edit summaries, always a good practice, are particularly important when reverting. Provide a valid and informative explanation including, if possible, a link to the Wikipedia principle you believe justifies the reversion. Try to remain available for dialogue, especially in the half-day or so after reverting.

A reversion is a complete rejection of the work of another editor and if the reversion is not adequately supported then the reverted editor may find it difficult to assume good faith. This is one of the most common causes of an edit war. A substantive explanation also promotes consensus by alerting the reverted editor to the problem with the original edit. The reverted editor may then be able to revise the edit to correct the perceived problem. The result will be an improved article, a more knowledgeable editor and greater harmony.

In addition to helping the reverted editor, providing information regarding the reversion will help other editors by letting them know whether – or not – they need to even view the reverted version, such as in the case of blanking a page. Explaining reverts also helps users who check edit histories to determine the extent to which the information in the article is reliable or current.

If your reasons for reverting are too complex to explain in an edit summary, leave a note on the article's Talk page. It is sometimes best to leave a note on the Talk page first and then revert, rather than the other way around; thus giving the other editor a chance to agree with you and revise their edit appropriately. Conversely, if another editor reverts your change without any apparent explanation, you may wish to wait a few minutes to see if they explain their actions on the article's or your user's talk page.

In other words, "what?" is not an adequate justification for reversion. Your history of condescension and hostility in the editing commentary are inappropriate and against Wikipedia policy. The problem with the entry I edited is that it is about a faculty vote in which Gary Olson played a role (and, as per the entry, at an institution in which Olson no longer works). As a consequence, it is imbalanced compared to the other summaries about Olson's professional activities. I left the existing citations at the end of the sentence concerning Olson's resignation Idaho State so that Wikipedia readers would be able to access it if interested. If you are concerned about readers' access to such information, you can add additional citations as per Wikipedia standards. Or, if you would like to create greater balance with the previous entries about why Olson resigned from previous administrative positions, then that would be welcome as well. But you are policing this page rather than contributing positively to its evolution, which is also against Wikipedia policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugothebunny (talk • contribs) 09:02, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like you might want to lodge a complaint about my actions at WP:ANI. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 09:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffrey Epstein

Hi Nomoskedasticity,

It is serious slander to accuse a living person of pedophilia when they have not been legally accused of that crime. Pedophilia is a serious crime and that was not Jeffrey Epstein's conviction. Please see the Fox News link for example. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/07/01/billionaire-jeffrey-epstein-pleads-guilty-to-prostitution-charge/ Circuit Court Judge Deborah Pucillo in West Palm Beach charged Jeffrey Epstein of soliciting underage prostitution. The Daily Beast and Gawker and all of those others are not legally accurate sources.

I have no interest in promoting Jeffrey Epstein but I am interested in maintaining a fair and neutral point of view and not to engage in a Crucible like cacophony of false and slanderous accusations.

I will paste this on Jeffrey Epstein's talk page and will be asking other editors to back it.

Thank you, Turvill (talk) 22:50, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Near East University

Hi Nomoskedasticity, I do not understand why you are persistently interfering with the page of Near East University despite that there is no unsourced information, I last time added the info about faculties of which reference is given in the link of university and this is not an unsourced material. Can you specifically let me know why you removed this info, please?

See WP:SECONDARY and WP:RS. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 08:27, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Latest Scholarscentral sock

FYI, I went to SPI with the current Scholarscentral sock, Myfilm11. Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 15:33, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks -- nice result. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 17:45, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
He at least gets points for persistence, I suppose... Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 20:40, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking consensus

Please see responses on Talk:British Jews and give us your view on BusStop's suggestion. Is there a Gordian Knot Barnstar yet? There should be.

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