Talk:Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)

Sub-Zero says that Scorpion fought against Sub-Zero the Younger; this article says he worked with him to atone for killing Sub-Zero the Elder. Which is it? grendel|khan 04:11, 2004 Dec 29 (UTC)

"Get over here!"

I've excised the follow line from the article:

• "Scorpion's "Get Over Here!" quote is the most famous quote in not only Mortal Kombat but also in Video Game history."

Calling something 'the most famous quote in video game history' is reckless hyperbole that cannot be backed up. If someone has some kind of statistics to back up that assertion, please reference them in the article. Fernando Rizo 21:12, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Conquest reference?

I'm a tad uncomfortable with that reference to Takeda in the Trivia section. I have never played MK: Mythologies (from what I hear, that may be a good thing...) so I'll ask this before I delete anything: is it made clear that the man who set up the Shirai Ryu (Scorpion's clan) had the name of Takeda and the entire clan wears yellow to mock the Lin Kuei? If there's nothing that suggests as much in the games or in the comic books, the piece of trivia needs editing because Mortal Kombat Conquest is the only other instance I can think where Scorpion is called Takeda, and Conquest isn't canon. It's been suggested before that Scorpion's clan hate the Lin Kuei, so it's not out of the question that the trivia at least bears some truth. It's just, if we can't prove the existence of a Takeda character, then we'll have to edit it so it says Hanzo Hasashi, Scorpion's real name. --L T Dangerous 14:40, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

-It's specified in MKDA's Konquest mode that a man named Takeda indeed founded the Shirai Ryu. The name was most likely borrowed from the Conquest TV show. However, the bit about them wearing yellow as a form of mockery has been retconned. Shadaloo 07:57, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Netherrealm Trivia

Is there any specific source for this line here:
Because his strength and powers increase while he is in hell he is considered to be the most feared and dangerous individual in the regions of the Netherealm. Many demons, and even Lucifer himself, are afraid of Scorpion.
If not, it probably should be taken out. The trivia section in general needs to be trimmed.Virogtheconq 19:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

-There's a line in Deception's Konquest about his powers increasing while in hell, while Quan Chi's decrease. But the rest of that is nonsensical. Lucifer has been deposed by the time Scorpion was "born". Shadaloo 08:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Potrayers

Do we really need that section?

Well, the information on who portrayed what characters for some segment of the games/film is as important as the other information in the infobox, IMHO. Virogtheconq 01:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Scorpion's "name"

the name "Hanzo Hasashi" is a non-canon reference created for the Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub Zero game which was not developed by the MK team and is NOT canon, thus I feel it must be stated that although this is the only name we have been provided in a video game that it be noted that it is NOT an official reference created by Ed Boon or John Tobias.

My edits to that effect are consistantly changed to remove the notes that they are not official storyline.

So, does that mean none of the events of MKM:SZ are canon? Even though it's an official MK game?Virogtheconq 17:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

• MK: Mythologies is canon, it was made by John Tobias, it's referred to in MK4, MK:TE, and Deception, and Hanzo Hasashi is Scorpion's real name.

No actually just because some parts of the game were referenced later in official MK games, Ed Boon and company have stated that very little of those adventure games counts as canon as they weren't written by the MK team. I believe you can hear that in some of the MK Shaolin Monks interviews.

• Shaolin Monks. Not Mythologies. And once again: Mythologies was written by John Tobias.

You do realize taking out Mythologies removes a large chunk of backstory, right? The story of Mythologies was made specifically to build up MK4. The Shirai Ryu and Quan Chi slaughtering the clan along with Scorpion's family? How Shinnok conquered the Netherealm? Shinnok's Amulet and how Quan Chi got it? Sareena's entire existence? All from Mythologies. Noob-Smoke's Deception ending even makes a reference to a specific part of Mythologies: "As Raiden revealed during the ordeal with Shinnok's Amulet, Sub-Zero's soul had been tainted..." That was Mythologies. Shaolin Monks doesn't count because if contradicts the established stories of MK2 and MK3 and it's unlikely we'll see any references to it in future games. Unless a future game refers to Jade being stabbed in the face by Liu Kang or Quan Chi stealing an Amulet off Shao Kahn's corpse, or anything else that was revealed MK:SM will remain non-canon.

I don't think you quite grasp what I'm saying. Ed Boon said that the other adventure games meant nothing in the Shaolin Monks interviews. He made reference to Mythologies and how it doesn't count towards the official storyline.

Shaolin Monks means nothing, and Boon has been known to contradict himself. These days, the fans decide what's canon and what's not, going by MK series logic, and what they count is just as important as what Boon says. I recall him once saying MK:SM's story overrode MKII's, and later saying that it was a "what-if" type of scenario. He contradicts himself. Vogel's the one in charge of story these days, not him. Besides, I think that comment may have been in reference to MK: Special Forces, which has no bearing on any of the other MK games. That could be counted as a loss, SZ can not. MKM:SZ is where Sareena came from. That's where the amulet saga came from. And if the name of Hanzo Hasashi was referenced as being from MKM:SZ, then it's canon, too. Sub-Zero's choice to remain true to his violent ways of life caused him to eventually become Noob Saibot, and MKM:SZ showed this. It's a crucial part of the MK series, and is entirely canon. Point finale. Shadaloo 02:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)