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key

Do you think the F major is the best key ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When it comes to Cantopop, which is the majority of the videos you showed me, perhaps so. When it comes to classical music, I have no preference for any key. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The F major reminds the color blue, right ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 11:03, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

According to some theories, it does. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The G-flat major reminds the color orange ? 198.105.108.150 (talk) 15:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is arguable. G-flat major (also known as F# Major) is also associated with the colour green: List of Green Lanterns#Rot Lop Fan. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is associated in with color ? 198.105.127.120 (talk) 23:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One has blue text and the other has pink text. Otherwise, the song is not associated with any particular colour. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:11, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

This key makes someone think the colour orange, yellow or purple ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 17:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The piece is in F-sharp major, therefore it is green or cyan. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But the F-sharp major makes me think the colour orange. 198.105.121.97 (talk) 02:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The E-flat minor makes someone think the colour brown ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 12:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is debatable, but minor keys sound dark, while major keys sound bright. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in D-flat minor, but it's in F-sharp minor in 1:54, right ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 19:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to tell. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 23:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is exactly in G-flat major or between F major and G-flat major ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 11:55, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is closer to G-flat major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:52, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

G-flat major and G major is similar ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 17:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but they differ by one semitone. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 19:37, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think the E-flat minor is sadder than the E minor ? 198.105.121.97 (talk) 21:18, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are the same to me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The F major and G-flat major are very different ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 21:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not that different but different nonetheless. They only differ by a semitone. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The G-flat major is stronger than the F major ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 11:12, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They are the same. Any key is stronger with forte dynamics. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:57, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

These four songs are in the same key ? 198.105.102.194 (talk) 14:50, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First: G-flat major
Second: F major
Third: G-flat major
Fourth: G-flat major
Therefore, no. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:03, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The second is between F major and G-flat major, isn't it ? 198.105.110.145 (talk) 11:32, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It might be so. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

These two songs' tempo are different ? 198.105.110.145 (talk) 01:27, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The latter is slightly faster than the former and believe it or not, the increased speed of the latter caused its key to shift almost one semitone higher (common with pop music). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:47, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, the latter is slower than the former. 198.105.110.145 (talk) 11:23, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for correcting me. I was tired. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:04, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

This song is in F major or G-flat major ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 11:12, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in F major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:56, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The key between F major and G-flat major is not in Wikipedia ? 198.105.122.45 (talk) 01:46, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is not in Wikipedia, as it is absent in Western music (and is otherwise too obscure aside from East and Southeast Asian pop music). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does this is a Western music ? 198.105.106.85 (talk) 11:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is Western. It is in F major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, this song is between F major and G-flat major. Why you told me this key is absent in Western music ? Because this song hasn't a high quality ? 198.105.106.85 (talk) 21:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I get it. It was from a vinyl record recording, which over time has led to the key being distorted. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:58, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song's original key is between F major and G-flat major, but in the second video, it's in F major. It's possible to make the key between F major and G-flat major with instruments ? 198.105.118.165 (talk) 01:19, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. One can tune multiple sets of instruments (depending on the instrument) to play in keys not on the Western scale. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:02, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why it's in F major in the second video ? 198.105.118.165 (talk) 12:10, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is not effective to tune every single instrument there. Often, it is just easier to play on a recognized key. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 17:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

tempête

Do you believe this pronunciation is between [tãpeɪt] and [tãpaɪt] ? 198.105.117.46 (talk) 01:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like the former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:28, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you very much. I have added it to my barnstar collection. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

This song is in F-flat major ? 198.105.101.210 (talk) 01:27, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. It is in F major (though off-key). Remember that F-flat is exactly the same as E. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Off-key means between F-flat major and F major ? 198.105.113.6 (talk) 11:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, yes, though it is closer to F major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 12:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is a F major with a comma ? 198.105.113.6 (talk) 12:52, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps so. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:57, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This song's key is closer to F major or closer to G-flat major ? 198.105.101.127 (talk) 20:40, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is very much in the middle. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:13, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This key is strange. You think it's in E-flat minor or D major ? 198.105.101.127 (talk) 01:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is halfway between the two keys. It is quite hard to tell though, as the vocals overpower the instrumentals and the instrumentals are very low. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in A major or B-flat major ? Be careful ! The intro is difficult to guess. 198.105.110.248 (talk) 00:33, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the latter. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in G major or A-flat major ? 198.105.120.197 (talk) 11:00, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is the former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:58, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in E major ? 198.105.117.194 (talk) 14:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

chè

You hear [tʃɛ] or [tʃæ] ? 198.105.101.127 (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I hear it as neither. I hear it as [tʃe]. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ver

Do you hear a short [a] before the [ɛ] sound (that is [vᵃɛʁ]) ? 198.105.103.32 (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:47, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And this one. Do you hear a short [a] before the [ɛ] sound (that is [ivᵃɛʁ]) ? 198.105.103.32 (talk) 17:28, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Extremely slight. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:19, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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key

Does the key start to up in 3:32 ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 21:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The key becomes G-flat major at 3:32. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:49, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It becomes G-flat major or G major at 3:32 ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 13:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It becomes the former at that point. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So, the intro is in F major ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 17:30, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is halfway between F major and G-flat major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 20:13, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In 3:32, it becomes between G-flat major and G major, right ? 198.105.120.239 (talk) 20:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It may be so. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's impossible to set the key between F major and G-flat major. This key is modified with a machine. 198.105.107.122 (talk) 10:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is not impossible, but it is very impractical to do so without a machine. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:56, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Does this key is written in the page F♯ (musical note) ? 198.105.105.98 (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:05, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
F♯4 is not this key ? 198.105.101.130 (talk) 06:11, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
F♯4 is in that key, just not in that particular song. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:15, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in G-flat major ? 198.105.101.130 (talk) 21:19, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds more like F♯ minor to me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:29, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
F♯ minor or E-flat minor ? 198.105.123.58 (talk) 11:13, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is actually E♭ minor. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:55, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in E minor or F minor ? 198.105.123.58 (talk) 17:30, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is halfway in between, though closer to F minor. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This two keys are identic or different ? 198.105.107.136 (talk) 06:07, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The two are identical, both G-flat major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:50, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song, the intro is in D minor, but the singing part is in F major ? 198.105.107.136 (talk) 18:46, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes for parts of it (some of the singing part, especially later on is in D minor). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:23, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

These three songs are in the same key or not ? 198.105.107.136 (talk) 11:57, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:46, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Which song is exactly in F major ? 198.105.98.86 (talk) 17:15, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The first one. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:44, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The second and the third are in the same key ? 198.105.97.31 (talk) 00:58, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:09, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The first video is in F major, the third video is in F♯4 and the second video is in which key ? 198.105.125.27 (talk) 05:33, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is more like G-flat major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:54, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The second video's key is lower than the third video ? 198.105.111.160 (talk) 20:30, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:07, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think the third sentence of this song is in G-flat major ? 198.105.111.160 (talk) 02:13, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is more like E-flat minor. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:35, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you hear a different key in this two videos ? 198.105.104.5 (talk) 17:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:23, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't listen this key carefully, you will guess this key is F major ? 198.105.119.21 (talk) 21:39, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It is actually in G-flat major after listening to it millions of times. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:29, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does the A major makes someone to think the sunshine ? For me, yes. 198.105.119.21 (talk) 01:39, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I must concur. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:49, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in G-flat major or G major ? 198.105.103.141 (talk) 11:15, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the former. It would have been great if I get my hands on Logic Pro, so that I can determine what key any piece of music it is in quickly and accurately. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some parts of this song is in E-flat minor ans some parts is in G-flat major. Which is the home key ? 198.105.113.105 (talk) 23:54, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is the former. Generally, the home key is the one that is the very first chord and/or the very last chord. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in D minor ? 198.105.102.175 (talk) 18:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:43, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The second octave is different ? 198.105.124.164 (talk) 23:41, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to tell. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:33, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The second voice is lower ? 198.105.103.203 (talk) 09:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. The second is so heavily post-processed that the female voice becomes a male voice. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:15, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The second video, it's a cover. When men sing a women's song, their voice is often lower ? 198.105.122.63 (talk) 18:27, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, for obvious reasons. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in C major or A minor ? 198.105.126.178 (talk) 12:20, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the latter. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:25, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Some parts of this song is in C major ? 198.105.126.178 (talk) 20:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
True, but the song is in A minor. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:31, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The intro of this song is in E-flat minor, but the singing part is in G-flat major, right ? 198.105.126.178 (talk) 07:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

True. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:58, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gaspesian accent

  • fête :
  • tempête :
  • fenêtre :

The ê sound is different pronounced by the same speaker ? 198.105.126.178 (talk) 18:32, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. After all, -êt- is often used for etymological purposes, as it used to be -est- earlier in the history of the French language. The circumflex replaces the "s" that used to follow the letter, which was later dropped for ease of pronouncing. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 23:58, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The three ê (fête, tempête, fenêtre) are really all different in these four clips ? 198.105.126.178 (talk) 00:21, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The ê in tempête and fenêtre are identical or different ? 198.105.108.2 (talk) 10:40, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Different. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fenêtre rhymes with "night" and tempête rhymes with which word ? 64.18.87.72 (talk) 16:12, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It rhymes with "night" as well. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:06, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

In 0:39, it's in G-flat major or E-flat minor ? 198.105.101.46 (talk) 00:44, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The former (though right before that is in E-flat minor). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:13, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The intro is in E-flat major ? 198.105.119.232 (talk) 11:27, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The A-flat major is associated with the color yellow ? 198.105.119.232 (talk) 21:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is very much arbitrary. I have no opinion. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

拖

You hear [twɔ] or [trwɔ] ? 198.105.109.164 (talk) 12:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I hear it as the latter (the "r" sound is weak but noticeable). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:52, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

The singing part is in E major or C♯ minor ? 198.105.109.164 (talk) 23:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:54, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe, do you think the home key is C♯ minor ? 198.105.116.94 (talk) 10:33, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps so. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:40, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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key

This song is in F major or D minor ? 198.105.120.140 (talk) 13:06, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the latter. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:42, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

r sound

Do you hear the difference ? 198.105.112.99 (talk) 22:48, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:09, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The second is "head" ? 198.105.112.120 (talk) 07:37, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:50, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The second sounds like what ? 198.105.109.227 (talk) 16:03, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like head, except for the added initial uvular trilled "r". Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

gracias

You hear [ˈɡɾasjas] or [ˈɡɾasjɛs] ? 198.105.114.109 (talk) 21:39, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I hear it as the latter, though if I were to slow it down, I hear it as the former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:20, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And this one is [ˈɡɾasjɛs] ? 198.105.106.62 (talk) 12:04, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:45, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ver

If you slow it down, do you hear [va̯ɛʁ] ? 198.105.106.62 (talk) 16:53, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:45, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

In 03:53, it's in F major or G-flat major ? 198.105.120.54 (talk) 14:28, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:02, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected (bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances (bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances (bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories (bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias (bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes (bug 54712).

Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:03, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

key

This song is in D-flat minor or D minor ? 198.105.118.29 (talk) 13:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:50, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

tempête and tête

  • tempête :
  • tête :

This two ê are the same sound ? 198.105.118.29 (talk) 01:09, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:01, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tête sounds like "tight" ? Fort123 (talk) 12:18, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. It sounds like "tate." Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:12, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds a bit like "tight", isn't it ? 198.105.118.29 (talk) 17:01, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No. It still sounds like "tate" to me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:47, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tempête sounds a bit like "tumpayt" ? 198.105.106.68 (talk) 14:27, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. It rhymes with "night." Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:45, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think the first clip rhymes exactly with night and the second clip rhymes between late and night ? 198.105.106.47 (talk) 23:12, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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