User talk:Majorfun

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Conflict of Interest

Hi Bernie, I'm surprised this hasn't come up yet, but I think it's important that you be more cautious in your future edits. Wikipedia has a Conflict of Interest guideline that suggests that promoting your own interests can lead to your account getting blocked. I understand that you are probably more knowledgeable about your own work than any other person and so it's natural that you would wish to set the record straight for issues that you think are mis-represented or poorly represented, but edits like this aren't acceptable. The way to correct properly-sourced information in an article is by presenting sufficiently strong contrary sources, not by simply changing the text of the article. Because your edits all seem to relate to you and your work, I think it would really be the best move to suggest these changes on the articles' talk pages rather than making the edit yourself. Please read through the Conflict of Interest guideline if for no other reason than to know how far you're allowed to go and to defend yourself if you get caught editing articles on yourself or your own work. I'm not interested in turning you in and getting you blocked or driving you away, but you have to be aware of the restrictions that come with Conflicted editing. Please be more cautious in the future. -Thibbs (talk) 14:42, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. I saw your note and certainly there is truth to your claims regarding Alien Garden. The sources show that you were the creator and that Lanier was the programmer. The problem I see with the edit I linked above is that you removed the line saying that Moondust "is generally considered the first real art game". This claim was properly sourced to the Stanford Center for the Study of Language and Information website and should not have been removed unless reliable contradictory sources were presented. The references near Alien Garden are already problematic since the Gamasutra source describes you as the creator and the Edge source describes Lanier as the creator. But the important point is that the Edge piece demonstrates that Alien Garden was the first piece self-described as an "art game" whereas according to the Stanford piece, Moondust is "generally considered the first real art game". Removing this claim is clearly somewhat self-promoting and in my view it steps over the line regarding Conflict of Interest. If you think the claim should be removed then please post about it on the talk page. -Thibbs (talk) 15:18, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you mean this talk page. I guess I object to the word "real" - Alien Garden is as much an art game, and as real, if a game can be real, as Moondust.

Sorry I should have been clearer. Each article has a talk page that is reserved for discussion regarding the content of that article. So if you wanted to make potentially Conflicted edits at Alien Garden then you'd post at Talk:Alien Garden by clicking the "edit" tab at the top of that page. This should bring you to this page. Then you'd add your comment at the bottom. You should do this before making edits on any subject for which you are personally invested. Regarding your concern about the word "real", I think that's a good point and I've removed the word. Sorry for all the confusion. I know this place is kind of maze-like when you are a new editor. If you need any further help you can also post at my talk page by clicking this link and adding your comment to the bottom. Cheers, -Thibbs (talk) 15:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

playday on the parkway

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the only reference I was able to find was this - http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1346&dat=19760627&id=a4ksAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2PoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5820,7633479 - it briefly mentions the event but does not mention my role in it.

and yes, I'll keep my conceptual mits off this from now on.

I've added that reference as well. And please feel free to bring anything up on the talk page if you think the article needs to be changed. If I don't respond then you can follow up on the issue at Wikipedia:Contact us - Subjects. -Thibbs (talk) 05:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ricochet

there's this announcement - http://www.atarimagazines.com/compute/issue21/New_Products_From_Automated_Simulations.php - which describes the atari version of Ricochet that came out in 1982. I was not able to find another game in this category published by anyone earlier than that