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Hello, Johnny Au, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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VisualEditor Newsletter—February 2014

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You can easily re-use references by going to the Insert menu, choosing "Reference", and clicking on "Use an existing reference" in the lower left corner. A list of all references, their numbers, and their ref names (if any) will be shown. You can search the list for any author, title, date, or other keyword. Read the user guide for more information.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.

The biggest change was the addition of more features to the image dialog, including the ability to set alignment (left, right, center), framing options (thumbnail, frame, frameless, and none), adding alt text, and defining the size manually. There is still some work to be done here, including a quick way to set the default size.

  • The main priority is redesigning the reference dialog, with the goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs and URLs and streamlining the process. Current concept drawings are available at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.
  • A few bugs in the existing reference dialog were fixed. The toolbar was simplified to remove galleries and lists from the reference dialog. When you re-use references, it now correctly displays the references again, rather than just the number and name. If you paste content into a dialog that can't fit there (e.g. ==section headings== in references), it now strips out the inappropriate HTML.
  • You can now edit image galleries inside VisualEditor. At this time, the gallery tool is a very limited option that gives you access to the wikitext. It will see significant improvements at a later date.
  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu is being redesigned. Your feedback on the special character inserter is still wanted, especially if you depend on Wikipedia's character inserters for your normal editing rather than using the ones built into your computer.
  • You can now see a help page about keyboard shortcuts in the page menu (three bars next to the Cancel button) (Template:Bug).
  • If you edit categories, your changes will now display correctly after saving the page (Template:Bug).
  • Saving the page should be faster now (Template:Bug).
  • Any community can ask to test a new tool to edit TemplateData by leaving a note at Template:Bug.

Looking ahead: The link tool will tell you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. The warning about wikitext will hide itself after you remove the wikitext markup in that paragraph. Support for creating and editing redirects is in the pipeline. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including default and upright sizes. The developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments, some behavioral magic words like DISPLAYTITLE, and in-line language setting (dir="rtl").

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 04:20, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

key

This song is between G major and A-flat major. I already know a lot of songs that uses a microtone ! 166.48.189.93 (talk) 00:05, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is! Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:01, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is exactly in G♭ major ? 166.48.189.93 (talk) 01:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in G♭ major or G major ? 166.48.168.39 (talk) 01:04, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is very much halfway between the two. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:03, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This key can make someone think of the color purple ? 166.48.185.170 (talk) 16:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose so. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:15, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The intro is in B major ? 166.48.168.185 (talk) 11:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:14, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The intro is in which key ? 198.99.28.211 (talk) 16:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

F♯ major I believe. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:01, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The singing part is in F♯ major, but maybe it's in B major at 0:06 ? 162.222.80.37 (talk) 12:07, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Might be so. Much of the intro modulates back and forth between B major and F♯ major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:46, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The G♭ major and the E♭ minor sound very different ? 198.99.29.206 (talk) 14:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. One sounds bright, the other sounds gloomy. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:30, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

At 1:35, it's in G♭ major or E♭ minor ? 166.48.169.32 (talk) 13:01, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The latter. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:26, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is played using black keys or not ? Fort123 (talk) 13:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Many, but not exclusively. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:36, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First time, you told me that this song is in G major, because you didn't pay attention ? 166.48.185.102 (talk) 23:34, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't paying attention the first time. I must apologize. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:07, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, it's not in G major ? 166.48.181.48 (talk) 01:37, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. It is because the key was slightly off. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:10, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually in G♭ major ? 166.48.181.48 (talk) 01:09, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. It is rather halfway between the two keys, though slightly closer to G♭ major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:00, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Toronto road articles

Hi Johnny, I'm writing because you do a lot of edits to the Toronto roads articles. There seems to be three list articles about Toronto roads: List of east–west roads in Toronto, List of north–south roads in Toronto, and List of roads in Toronto. It's the "List of roads in Toronto" article I want your opinion about. I see there was some discussion about merging it on the talk page. It's mostly about diagonal roads, and may be better if it was called "List of diagonal roads in Toronto". And the non-diagonal roads in the article could be moved to the other lists. Also, all three list pages should have "see also" links to the others. Thanks for you opinion. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

VisualEditor newsletter—March 2014

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The template dialog has been simplified to make it faster and easier to add parameter data. Read the user guide for more information.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing.  With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.

  • The link tool now tells you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. Pages that exist, but are not indexed by the search engine, are treated like non-existent pages (Template:Bug).
  • Wikitext warnings will now hide when you remove wikitext from the paragraph you are editing.
  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has been slightly redesigned, to introduce larger buttons. Your suggestions for more significant changes to the special character inserter are still wanted.
  • The page options menu (three bars, next to the Cancel button) has expanded. You can create and edit redirect pages, set page options like __STATICREDIRECT__, __[NO]INDEX__ and __[NO]NEWEDITSECTION__, and more.  New keyboard shortcuts are listed there, and include undoing the last action, clearing formatting, and showing the shortcut help window. If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged.
  • It is easier to edit images. There are more options and they are explained better. If you add new images to pages, they will also be default size.  You can now set image sizes to the default, if another size was previously specified. Full support for upright sizing systems, which more readily adapt image sizes to the reader's screen size, is planned.
  • VisualEditor adds fake blank lines so you can put your cursor there. These "slugs" are now smaller than normal blank lines, and are animated to be different from actual blank lines.
  • You can use the Ctrl+Alt+S or ⌘ Command+⌥ Option+S shortcuts to open the save window, and you can preview your edit summary when checking your changes in the save window.
  • After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed to the Interlingual Occidental Wikipedia, the Portuguese Wikibooks, and the French Wikiversity.
  • Any community can ask for custom icons for their language in the character formatting menu (bold, italic, etc.) by making a request on Bugzilla or by contacting Product Manager James Forrester.

The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of |upright size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Wikipedia, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.

Looking ahead:  Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") may be offered to a few Wikipedias soon.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on 19 April 2014 at 2000 UTC. Thank you! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

key

They sing in G major, right ? 166.48.189.125 (talk) 23:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Although off-tune, they do sing in G major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:35, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a big difference ? 166.48.168.168 (talk) 14:57, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:56, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The first video is in A♭ major and the second video is in F major ? 166.48.169.186 (talk) 12:29, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to tell. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:55, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I knew that the first video is certainly in A♭ major, but you don't know that the second video is in which key ? 166.48.173.55 (talk) 19:56, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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