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VisualEditor Newsletter—February 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.

The biggest change was the addition of more features to the image dialog, including the ability to set alignment (left, right, center), framing options (thumbnail, frame, frameless, and none), adding alt text, and defining the size manually. There is still some work to be done here, including a quick way to set the default size.

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key

This song is between G major and A-flat major. I already know a lot of songs that uses a microtone ! 166.48.189.93 (talk) 00:05, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is! Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:01, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is exactly in G♭ major ? 166.48.189.93 (talk) 01:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in G♭ major or G major ? 166.48.168.39 (talk) 01:04, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is very much halfway between the two. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:03, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This key can make someone think of the color purple ? 166.48.185.170 (talk) 16:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose so. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:15, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The intro is in B major ? 166.48.168.185 (talk) 11:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:14, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The intro is in which key ? 198.99.28.211 (talk) 16:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

F♯ major I believe. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:01, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The singing part is in F♯ major, but maybe it's in B major at 0:06 ? 162.222.80.37 (talk) 12:07, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Might be so. Much of the intro modulates back and forth between B major and F♯ major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:46, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The G major and the E minor sound very different ? 198.99.29.206 (talk) 14:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. One sounds bright, the other sounds gloomy. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:30, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

At 1:35, it's in G major or E minor ? 166.48.169.32 (talk) 13:01, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The latter. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:26, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is played using black keys or not ? Fort123 (talk) 13:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Many, but not exclusively. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:36, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First time, you told me that this song is in G major, because you didn't pay attention ? 166.48.185.102 (talk) 23:34, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't paying attention the first time. I must apologize. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:07, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, it's not in G major ? 166.48.181.48 (talk) 01:37, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. It is because the key was slightly off. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:10, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually in G♭ major ? 166.48.181.48 (talk) 01:09, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. It is rather halfway between the two keys, though slightly closer to G major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:00, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Toronto road articles

Hi Johnny, I'm writing because you do a lot of edits to the Toronto roads articles. There seems to be three list articles about Toronto roads: List of east–west roads in Toronto, List of north–south roads in Toronto, and List of roads in Toronto. It's the "List of roads in Toronto" article I want your opinion about. I see there was some discussion about merging it on the talk page. It's mostly about diagonal roads, and may be better if it was called "List of diagonal roads in Toronto". And the non-diagonal roads in the article could be moved to the other lists. Also, all three list pages should have "see also" links to the others. Thanks for you opinion. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

VisualEditor newsletter—March 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing.  With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.

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The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of |upright size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Wikipedia, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.

Looking ahead:  Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") may be offered to a few Wikipedias soon.

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key

They sing in G major, right ? 166.48.189.125 (talk) 23:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Although off-tune, they do sing in G major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:35, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a big difference ? 166.48.168.168 (talk) 14:57, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:56, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The first video is in A♭ major and the second video is in F major ? 166.48.169.186 (talk) 12:29, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to tell. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:55, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I knew that the first video is certainly in A♭ major, but you don't know that the second video is in which key ? 166.48.173.55 (talk) 19:56, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Same. I know the key of the first video (A♭ major), but not the second. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:18, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe the second video is in G♭ major ? 166.48.173.71 (talk) 11:43, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is rather halfway between F major and G♭ major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you like this key ? This is my favorite key. 166.48.196.96 (talk) 01:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, the 1986 televised version of Journey to the West! It is high-pitched G♭ major! Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:08, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in G♭ major or G major ? 166.48.180.95 (talk) 11:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:56, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

key synesthesia

  • A major = straw
  • A♯ major = straw
  • B major = vanilla
  • C major = beige
  • C♯ major = white
  • D major = white
  • D♯ major = white
  • E major = blue
  • F major = purple
  • F♯ major = orange
  • G major = orange
  • G♯ major = yellow

That's my synesthesia. I'm capable to guess the keys, but I only have difficulty to distinguish D major/D♯ major, A major/A♯ major, B minor/C minor and F♯ minor/G minor. When you were 10 years old, you were capable to guess the keys ? 166.48.188.111 (talk) 00:06, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not that well. I began playing the piano when I was 8, as well as read music. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:52, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a synesthesia ? 166.48.188.111 (talk) 11:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:56, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have an emotion for the F♯ major ? 166.48.188.111 (talk) 14:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds cheerful (as with all other major keys for me). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:11, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

key

F major and F♯ major sounds similar for you ? 166.48.174.75 (talk) 11:19, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When I am not paying attention, very much so. When I do pay attention, they become distinct. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:48, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

F♯ major or G♭ major ? Which name is more popular ? 166.48.174.75 (talk) 22:41, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It depends. In keyboard music, the former is more popular. In orchestral music, the latter is more popular. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The F♯ major is present in this song ? 166.48.172.41 (talk) 00:35, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:12, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

At 0:57, the key changes ? 166.48.185.115 (talk) 12:46, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, from minor to major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:39, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the minor key ? The song is in A major, isn't it ? 166.48.185.115 (talk) 20:32, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

B minor I believe. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:07, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't hear a B minor. I hear the A major, F♯ major at 0:57 and G major at 2:57. The B minor is in which part ? 166.48.173.187 (talk) 02:14, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is actually a diminished chord before 0:57. I misheard it before. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:18, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This key is neither F♯ major nor G major ? 166.48.173.187 (talk) 02:29, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is in G major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:06, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is in G major at 3:31 ? 166.48.184.79 (talk) 18:59, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, but it leads to it a few chords later. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:48, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is in G major in 3:33 ? 166.48.177.125 (talk) 11:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The first song is in G major and the second song hasn't not a standard key ? 166.48.177.125 (talk) 21:30, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Both are in G major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:03, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

These two songs are in the same key ? 166.48.177.125 (talk) 12:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to tell. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Both are in F♯ major, isn't it ? 166.48.177.125 (talk) 15:01, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:02, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in A major ? 166.48.177.125 (talk) 15:40, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:00, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

F♯ minor ? 166.48.177.125 (talk) 16:06, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:59, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But the singing part is in another key ? 166.48.177.125 (talk) 11:13, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps so. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:16, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This key's name is "F♯ major 7" ? Fort123 (talk) 16:30, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:10, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

F♯ major with a 7 ? 166.48.177.125 (talk) 11:14, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Key names don't have a "7." They are only for chords. I misread it. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:27, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This key is neither F major nor F♯ major. This key has not a name ? Maybe it's "tuned F major" ? 166.48.177.125 (talk) 16:29, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps so. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:06, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The intro is in F minor, it's in B♭ major in 0:11 and it's in D minor in 1:06, right ? 166.48.176.148 (talk) 02:13, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:37, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is in F major at 0:13 ? 166.48.192.144 (talk) 20:21, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to tell. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:04, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The first video is in G major, but the second video is between G♭ major and G major ? 166.48.177.32 (talk) 21:47, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, though closer to G major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:15, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in F major ? 166.48.177.32 (talk) 00:33, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds rather halfway between F major and G♭ major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:01, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seine

The Canadian French pronunciation is [seɪ̯n] or [saɪ̯n] ? 166.48.172.215 (talk) 02:08, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The former. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:12, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Au

Your last name is pronounced [aʊ] ? 166.48.177.32 (talk) 13:10, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:26, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's 歐 ? 166.48.177.32 (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. It's 区. I am known as Johnny Area/District/Region/Ward/Zone! Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In Cantonese, the word 区 has two pronunciations, [køy] for district and [au] for the last name. 166.48.180.115 (talk) 15:15, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:01, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

VisualEditor newsletter—April 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on performance improvements, image settings, and preparation for a simplified citation template tool in its own menu.

  • In an oft-requested improvement, VisualEditor now displays red links (links to non-existent pages) in the proper color. Links to sister projects and external URLs are still the same blue as local links.
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Looking ahead:  A new, locally controlled menu of citation templates will put citations immediately in front of users. You will soon be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) is being developed. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") will be offered as a Beta Feature soon. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

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xanh

It rhymes with montagne ? 166.48.180.115 (talk) 11:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Note that the Vietnamese script is partially based on Portuguese. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

key

This song has a standard key or a microtone (Dm/E♭m) ? 166.48.196.49 (talk) 21:56, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Slight microtone, though slightly closer to D minor. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:20, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This key is slightly closer to F major than it is to G♭ major ? 166.48.170.90 (talk) 11:20, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. It is slightly closer to G♭ major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:28, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

These two songs have a standard key or a microtone ? 166.48.181.176 (talk) 02:09, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The former is in F major, while the latter is in a microtone. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:23, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in a standard key or a microtone ? 166.48.181.176 (talk) 00:01, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to tell. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:58, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's not exactly in F♯ major ? 166.48.181.176 (talk) 11:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Very close to, but not exactly. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:15, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The key has a slight difference ? 166.48.192.166 (talk) 12:50, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]