Talk:Dropa stones
Re-write Help
Would stating at the top of the article that they are part of folk archaeology help clear up the fact and fiction issue? The problem with the sources is that there are no reliable ones, which is part of the controversy surrounding the stones in the first place. The actual notes by researchers either do not exist or have not been found. Trieka Ayer (talk) 19:30, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- All articles on Wikipedia must pass the general notability guideline, which states that the subject of an article must have "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Is this true of Dropa stones? If not, the article should be deleted. If so, it simply needs to be sourced by the reliable sources that exist on the subject. This guideline explains how to identify reliable sources. If a source is not reliable, then it should not appear on Wikipedia. Do the sources that currently appear on the article measure up to this guideline? If not, they should be removed and reliable sources must be found. If the current sources are reliable, then the article simply needs to be written from a neutral point of view that gives equal validity to all significant viewpoints on the topic. If the most prominent view in reliable sources is that the Dropa stones are a hoax, this should be the view most prominently presented in the lede and body of the article. Neelix (talk) 21:11, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- The article as it now stands makes it fairly clear that these stones almost certainly do not exist, but are a notable phenomenon. The sources are perfectly good sources for the claims, they are not good sources for the existence of the stones, and are not being used as such. It would be good if the article came out and stated that they are widely believed to be a hoax, but, of course we do need RS for that. Rich Farmbrough, 16:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC).
- The article as it now stands makes it fairly clear that these stones almost certainly do not exist, but are a notable phenomenon. The sources are perfectly good sources for the claims, they are not good sources for the existence of the stones, and are not being used as such. It would be good if the article came out and stated that they are widely believed to be a hoax, but, of course we do need RS for that. Rich Farmbrough, 16:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC).
Re-Write: Changing Perspective (In Progress)
Moved to /draft,
Other sources (In Progress)
Books: Lionel Fanthorpe - Mysteries and secrets of the Masons: the story beind the Masonic Order [1]
Web:
Other:
Trieka Ayer (talk) 23:23, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- Just repeats other authors. He was president of the British UFO Research Association and a prolific writer, producing at one point the equivalent of a 158 page book every 12 days over a period of 3 years. Hardly a reliable source. Dougweller (talk) 20:42, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Deletion Opposition
I do not feel that at this point this page should be deleted. The problems are currently being resolved, and there has already been improvement from when it was first posted.
Trieka Ayer (talk) 21:55, 8 March 2012 (UTC) Also, where can I find the discussion about this deletion? Trieka Ayer (talk) 22:01, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I also do not feel that this page should be deleted at this point. There has been research effort been made and will only improve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmariajost (talk • contribs) 15:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Peer Review
Your Dropa stones article is very nice. You have a lot of references. As for improvements I would suggest combining the first paragraph with the background section. And if possible adding one more picture to the article would be awesome. Overall this article is very strong, good work :) Mamclelland (talk) 15:20, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Aircraft crash?
The last sentence mentions that the site of a crashed aircraft has never been found. What aircraft? Did I miss something? The story doesn't state the Dropa's aircraft crashed. So what aircraft is it?
- ^ Fanthorpe, Lionel (2006). Mysteries and secrets of the Masons: the story behind the Masonic Order. Toronto, Canada: Dundurn Press. pp. 39–41.