Talk:Human rights in Egypt under the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces

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Mislabeled image

An image showing a man holding a complete bullet is labeled by the author as a protester holding ammunition that was fired by the army. One thing for sure, is that bullets do not exit the barrels of rifles full, but are (spent) which means the projectile part exits the rifle and the bullet jacket is ejected from another port in the weapon. Against this fact, the source of the image mislabeled it to show spent security forces rounds.

one a side note: I have personally served in the Egyptian Military and these do not even look like government-made bullets; large scores of foreign-made ammunition and weapons were seized and photographed following clashes with the state forces. Photographs of Islamists holding foreign-made full bullets claiming them to be spent state bullets also flooded the internet at a certain point.

As the bullet is not a spent bullet as the source's caption suggests, and as there is no evidence -so far- about the affiliation of the man in the photograph, I find the safest and only remaining fact to be cited is that this image only shows a man holding a full bullet, claiming it to be fired.

Hi

I hope you accept that others contribute to this page! If so, I think that we should start compiling a list of resources [1] and testimonies. Moreover, how do you think this page should be organized? Dyaa (talk) 15:16, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I welcome your help. The main points I would like to write about is objecting civilians/activist to military trails, The torture of civilians/activist, The killing of civilians/activist and the censorship of free speech. I think that will be a good start of the article so we can make it go live and have the help of more editors. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:24, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I'm not an expert in editing wikis, and every time i try to start working on a topic, i get a panic attack of all the regulations that should secure the quality of the content. But i will try to overcome this panic attack, and start with Dina AbdulRahman's part. Feedback and crit would be appreciated. --Taliawi (talk) 04:57, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Title and scope considerations

The title needs to mention Egypt
The title can't just focus on violations but human rights in general (any positive changes)
It might be better in a more general setting such as 'Egypt under the SCOAF'
It should possibly be merged with '2011 Egyptian revolution' post-Mubarak until it is longer
It should focus on general trends rather than covering each incident (except for those with a lot of news)
It may be too early to recognize these general trends.

Ocaasi^{t | c} 13:35, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements to human rights...?

To avoid this article being a WP:POVFORK, it has to cover both sides. Have human rights under SCAF improved? Compared to under Mubarak? Compared to during the revolution? Ocaasi^{t | c} 13:40, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Human rights under the SCAF have only gotten worse. The have arrested workers and farmers for going on strike, Activists for speaking against the military junta, doctors for demand a better health care system for egyptian and on and on. We also got virginity tests AKA Virginity Gate [2]. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:53, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I still think the way to go is not to use 'violations' in the title. That way it leaves it open, and if there is no good news, then it's just not there, fine. Virginity tests, makes me irate. What were they thinking. Ocaasi^{t | c} 02:15, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dina Abdel Rahman

Sources

For further expansion -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:32, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]