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Several coords for one site

I have set up coords in List of Local Nature Reserves in Greater London formatted for kml, with kind assistance from Rodw. I forgot that Natural England gives two coords for some sites which are in separated areas, and only gave the name= parameter once for each site, so some locations show up on the map just as numbers. I am not sure of the best way of dealing with this. Do I need to have duplicate headings on the map or is it possible to stop kml from seeing selected coords? This will be a problem with other lists - some SSSI citations give 4 coords. Thanks for any advice. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

KML files on Google Maps

Google have announced changes to the use of kml files on google maps. Will this require any action on articles which use the kml template?— Rod talk 18:42, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article pages should not be impacted: That is why we have templates. The changes will be confined to this template and/or the mapping resource handler page https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php or its successor. The change doesn't occur until February and it seems it is easy to address. See WT:GEO#Google_Maps_and_.7B.7BGeoGroupTemplate.7D.7D. —EncMstr (talk) 19:02, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I came to report the same news. Ping User:Para FYI. --Jeremyb (talk) 23:33, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Technically it would be an easy change, and Google have all the code laid out for it already. Someone just needs to set up a landing page somewhere with the code on it, and change all the templates and tools on Wikipedia(s) to point to the new site instead of the Google site. However...

  • For some use of the Google Maps Javascript API that needs to be used, it must be loaded using a key from Google. Obtaining the key requires the developer to personally register themselves and the site with Google.
  • Google have limits on the number of free map loads allowed from a site before payment is required: https://developers.google.com/maps/usagelimits/ The various KML content linked from all the Wikimedia wikis is most likely over that limit.
  • The most obvious place for this Wikipedia related page would be on a Wikimedia Labs server, but the Labs Terms of use may not be compatible with embedding stuff from Google.
  • There will most certainly be feature requests for the site that someone will need to implement and maintain. There is much more room for customisation when a Wikipedian is responsible for the site, rather than just the KML content.

It's going to be very time consuming once you add in these inconvenient additional bits, so unfortunately I'm going to have to pass. As far as this template goes, all I can do (after the landing page exists) is change where the tool sends people when it's called with redir=google. Some other volunteer could probably be convinced to step up and do the groundwork just so that there's something to link to, but the paid staffers will need to intervene at some point. --Para (talk) 01:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]