Template talk:Yemeni Civil War detailed map

New map project for Yemen

stage one

adding the main cities and correcting positions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jumada (talk • contribs) 23:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Balhalf all the way out in the sea? Someone want to move it back to land? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgoll774 (talk • contribs) 14:33, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How To Make the Airport Yellow?

Major events have occured in Sana'a over the past week. How to make the airport yellow, to show Houthi control? Anyone?Eharding (talk) 22:14, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Latest updates

29th September 2014. by 0aali0 Added other cities in the sa'dah, sana'a map. Change the colour of the airport to yellow added other cities near Hajjah and Amran. Will add more cities in the future.

30th September 2014. by 0aali0 Added more cities example, Al Jawf Governorate, Al Mahwit Governorate, Abs district in the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0aali0 (talk • contribs) 00:06, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1st October 2014. by 0aali0 Added more cities example, Al Hudaydah, Maabar, Al_Luḩayyah, Suq Al Inan, Al Anad, Lahij, Madinat Al Abid and Yarim on the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0aali0 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting article which can be used for some updates - http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/15/us-yemen-security-idUSKCN0I41KG20141015?utm_source=twitter 77.240.103.2 (talk) 16:42, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mukalla, Riyan, and airport..

..should probably be placed on land -_- Boredwhytekid (talk) 12:44, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just added Ahwar, which is here, not even on the coast, and it shows up in the water. Greetings Jumada, could you help with this? Possible shift the template to the south? Boredwhytekid (talk) 14:05, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ma'rib City

Aawsat article - "A local tribal source from the oil-rich province of Ma’rib, which lies approximately 75 miles (120 kilometers) east of Sana’a, told AFP news agency the Houthis had now also entered Ma’rib city, the province’s capital, coming by air from Sana’a airport." Boredwhytekid (talk) 13:18, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

al-Adeen

Gov't held after a recent raid source source source - have not been able to locate it yet though Boredwhytekid (talk) 14:28, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mukalla

Aawsat from Friday indicates (all the way at the bottom) that gov't soldiers were still present in the city. Is Mukalla now definitely AQAP/SYM held? Boredwhytekid (talk) 20:06, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ibb

Heavily armed Sunni tribesmen(Al-Qaeda militants) battled the Shiite rebels(Houthi) around the city of Ibb, southwest of the capital.The Daily Star Hanibal911 (talk) 13:01, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Manaseh

Anyone able to locate Manaseh? al bawaba reuters Boredwhytekid (talk) 13:32, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ridiculous

How can this map use the same colour for towns controlled by Al-Qaeda affiliates & South Yemen Movement? This is ridiculous, like if we have the same colour for ISIS & the Kurds. Im gonna add a fourth colour for SYM ASAP.--HC PUNXKID 16:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As I havent been able to find sources stating SYM control over concrete towns, I will not add that fourth colour yet. Instead, Im going to remove SYM from the map legend, as they aint allied with Al-Qaeda, as the legend now suggests.--HC PUNXKID 23:14, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update

Somebody should update this map soon. It says it was last updated in October 99.42.97.16 (talk) 04:44, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Al Bayda and Rada'

I've updated the contested animation colours. The last edit had both Al Bayda and Rada' contested. Was this changes due to updated information, or were these left out due to the lack of the animations? Davo499 (talk) 02:14, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Posible Geopolitical Background of Wikipedia Templates of Modern ME Conflicts.

I have just noticed, please dont make me wrong, that this template alongside the Iraqui and Syrian Template are three Scenarios of a greater Sunni-Shia Strugle in the Middle East. How curious with the current tide of events, the Hezbolah and AlQaeda Presence in this 3 conflicts. It really important to add that Libya is suffering from the same issue here, AlQaeda Presence in some of its cities, if this continues this way we will soon have maps like this in Lebanon or Bahreim.200.48.214.19 (talk) 21:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Green for Houthis

To reduce this confusion of colours between Houthis and South Yemen-controlled areas, why don't we use green for Houthi-controlled area instead of using brown/orange? After all, Houthi logo slogan has a very greenish color painted on it.

Well done!!200.48.214.19 (talk) 19:42, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Houthis vs Yellow Rebels

An Flash icon of Houthis, South Yemen cessesionist clashes its needed.200.48.214.19 (talk) 19:48, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ta'izz

Changed Ta'izz to Houthi control following today's occupation.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-20/suicide-bombers-attack-shiite-mosques-in-yemen-killing-dozens — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:8270:7539:61D2:C7DF:4041:6F10 (talk) 23:57, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are troops of both sides (Saleh loyalist+ Houthis and The Security committee) without clashes until now. (so it is not Houthi control until now) also we need a new color for Saleh supporters.3bdulelah (talk) 14:26, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Al Mukka and Ad Dalla taken by Houthis

source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/24/us-yemen-security-idUSKBN0MK16O20150324 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.240.103.2 (talk) 14:49, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

AQ

I dont know who is making all that things about AQ controlling half of the southern Yemen, but are you moronic? 5 sec google-fu will reveal that no one in Mukallah knows taht their city is controlled by AQ [1]. I am going to dig for another sources, because that is just ridicolious. AQ controlling border post with KSA. Yeah, right, that sounds legit... EllsworthSK (talk) 10:46, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

EllsworthSK Here the map dated 11 March.here Also here a source which showed situation in largest cities of Yemen and showed who controls these cities.here And here map from Al Jazeera which is showed who and what controls in Yemen.here So you were not quite right when you marked several towns which is under control of Al Qaeda as under control of the Yemeni troops. Hanibal911 (talk) 13:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I JUST PROVIDED YOU WITH SOURCES FROM THE CITY! And you are responding with a map from non WP:RS. You are joking, right? Has anyone ever had at least a quick look on the rules that Wikipedia operates under? EllsworthSK (talk)

EllsworthSK Why you think that Al Jazeera not a reliable source for this conflict. Map from Al Jazeera clearly shows that Shabwah Governorate under control of Al Qaeda. and that Abyan Governorate and Hadhramaut Governorate contested between Yemeni Government and Al Qaeda.Al Jazeera So that according to this map the Abyan Governorate and Hadhramaut Governorate cant be fully under controlled by government. Hanibal911 (talk) 14:43, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree with Hanibal911 this is Vandalism beacause you cant change that with only one source but as I see no source was provided for this areas,we edit with reliable source also look the former president Hadi just left Yemen and you think that the Hadi supporters hold so much territory where the are so many faction in this country,there is the SYM which is another big faction where many tribes support this faction,and also Al-Qaeda is a big faction who took town and villages like Beihan and that confirmed many reliable sources,also the Houthi faction now who took half of Yemen and it's on it's way to Aden,If its not then why did Hadi leave Yemen beacause there is no safety anymore and he is target by the Houthi,the hole country is in chaos and might end up like Syria,this could happend after the U.S has confirmed that they lost their 500 million weapons given to yemen and allegedly this arsenal of weapons has fallen to A.Q.Lindi29 (talk) 18:13, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think about this Wikipedia Article? [2] Proletarii (talk) 19:00, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I Agree with you Lindi29! Many sources earlier also confirmed that the some areas in Yemen under control of Al Qaida. And Al Jazeera Al Jazeera showed that Shabwah Governorate under control of Al Qaeda. and that Abyan Governorate and Hadhramaut Governorate contested between Yemeni Government and Al Qaeda. But you EllsworthSK provide very strange sources:

according to this source here you marked as under control of Yemeni troops (Zamakh,Shibam,‘Azzan,Tarim,Maqrat and Al-Wadiah border crossing) but this source not confirmed those your actions
according to this source Strategy page you marked as under control of Yemeni troops the town of Shuqrah but this source said about situation for 2011 thus he cant confirmed your actions
according to this source Critical Threats you marked as under control of Yemeni troops (Zinjibar, Jaʿār) but this source dated 14 January but since then, it took many time and his data already outdated and cant be used for editing on map
according to this source Al Arabiya you marked as under control of Yemeni troops (Al Mukalla,Ghayl Ba Wazir,Ash Shihr,Al Hami,Qusay`ir,Ar Rukayb,Ar Riyan,Riyan International Airport) but this source just said that Yemen shut down its major seaports on Thursday as a Saudi-led military operation continued to strike Houthi forces and that Local sources in Yemen confirmed the closure. The ports closed include Aden, Al Mukalla, Al Mokha and Al Hudaydah, the sources said, giving no further details. But firstly Al Arabiya ant-Houthis source and secondly this source just said that source that major seaports closed include Aden, Al Mukalla, Al Mokha and Al Hudaydah but not said that all this ports under control by Yemeni troops (Al Hudaydah on 100% under control by Houthis) and that all these objects (Al Mukalla,Ghayl Ba Wazir,Ash Shihr,Al Hami,Qusay`ir,Ar Rukayb,Ar Riyan,Riyan International Airport) under control by Yemeni troops.

So your actions are not justified and fall under the concept Vandalism. So you need provide correct sources which can provide all your editings or revert all these editings. Hanibal911 (talk) 19:03, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Its not logic to change AQAP-controlled zones from a significant part of the territory to nearly nothing in a single edit. Individual sources must be provided for each town wich is colour-changed.--HC PUNXKID 00:01, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The massive changes in this map don't seem well enough sourced. The loss of almost all black coloured towns on one source seems ridiculous. I would also ideally want more sources for merging the southern movement and the Houthis. Even if they'd agreed to some formal alliance, I'm not sure I'd be for merging their control to one colour, in case they split.

Also, we currently have a black rural presence with the label Houthi rural presence. Banak (talk) 02:20, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

All edits made by user EllsworthSK will be reverted until he or she provides substantial evidence claiming Hadramout or Shabwa province are under "government control". Thank you. Myronbeg (talk) 08:56, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Al Jazeera clear reported and indicated that Houthis have now taken over 12 of the 21 Governorate of Yemen.Al Jazeera Hanibal911 (talk) 12:26, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just found this some minutes ago, any opinions?
http://sputniknews.com/infographics/20150327/1020092404.html Mr.User200 (talk) 18:39, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For Christ sake, going through this again. Read the wikipedia rules. WP:RS

Sources should directly support the information as it is presented in the Wikipedia article. If no reliable sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it

Placing a map from INTERACTIVE section and than supplying it with nonRS sources such as twitter is breaking this SOOO high that its even impossible to assertain.

Also I am getting wee-bit tired of this endless ignoration of sources. I HAVE TO PROVE THAT AQ DOES NOT CONTROL TOWNS? You have to prove it. I went way ahead and given several sources which state Tarrim under military control [3], you scholars have kept one of the largest city in Yemen as under AQ control and today you get the news that there has been a terrorist attack and a storm of AQ on what I provided source that after the breach from CNN which clearly states in its headline that اليمن: القاعدة تسيطر لساعات على مرافق - AQ controlled for several hours facilities in Mukallah city (notice the past tense) [4]. Your source about AQ controlling airbase? NOWHERE! Now Shibam [5]. And here is stated that former minister of telecommunication under Hadi, Ahmed Ubaid Bin Daghr who is wanted by Houthis arrived to his native city of Shibam [6]. Border crossing under AQ control on KSA border? Source? NOT NEEDED.

You are performing here WP:NOR and heavily encouraging WP:CIRC, resulting in maps on non-RS than you backtrack and use again as your source. You actually fallen into creation of AQ state by the size Jordan that no one, but scholars on Wikipedia, ever witnessed and than even come here defending it?! There is not one source that would ever claim any AQ territorial hold after their defeat in Zinjibar in 2012. Not one! But why bother with Wikipedia rules when we can just go on, spawn everything however we like, dont bother with sources (aside of linking me map on twitter user page) and there you go, accuse someone else who provides sources on these bogus claim as vandal.

If you believe so, click on this WP:AIV, report me and than we can have a nice chat in presence of admin where we can talk about what vandalism is. Meanwhile revertion of sourced edit is a vandalism and henceforth does not fall under WP:3RR and I shall enjoy doing exactly that. EllsworthSK (talk) 16:15, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What happened to all the black on the map

I know we merged Houthis and the southern movement, but why did we suddenly see almost all the black disappear from the map? Banak (talk) 15:31, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Banak Read this discussion.here Hanibal911 (talk) 16:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, sorry, didn't realise it pertained to so much of the map. I did read that conversation, thanks. Banak (talk) 16:12, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Updates which provide reliable sources!

Mocha is controlled by Houthis, and there's no al-Qaeda presence in al jawf, here's the map from CNN Map

I don't think CNN is pro Houthis. It's a reliable source. Ricardomoha (talk) 18:31, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course is not. Here is another source.

http://sputniknews.com/infographics/20150327/1020092404.html Mr.User200 (talk) 22:12, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So that according to data in map from CNN area where located the Sayma Airfield, Mocha Airport, Mocha, Murad, At Turbah under control by Houthis and troops by former president Saleh.CNN Hanibal911 (talk) 13:09, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Naval Base at Bab el-Mandeb strait seized by Houthis.

Houthis manage to capture the Bab el-Mandeb strait overlooking naval base, all indicate a unopposed take over, See here. However its not clear where the base is located
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/03/31/yemen-security-base-idINL6N0WX5HZ20150331 Mr.User200 (talk) 18:22, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Another source "قام "اللواء 17" بالجيش اليمني والمسؤول عن حماية مضيق ‫‏باب المندب الإستراتيجي بتسليم كافة مقراته ‏للحوثيين دون قتال، وقد جاء ذلك في نبأ عاجل منذ قليل حسبما ذكرت وكالة الأناضول." http://rassd.com/22-136254.htm

It says that the houthis took over bab el mandib without fight. According to Anadolu Agency. Ricardomoha (talk) 19:59, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Al_Mukalla

Al-Qaeda frees 300 prisoners in Al Mukalla [7] Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 12:51, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Qaeda stormed the center of the port city of al-Mukalla in the province of Hadhramaut.Albawaba Hanibal911 (talk) 15:39, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

update

Yemeni tribes enter coastal town to drive out al Qaeda (4/4/2015) Yemeni tribes enter coastal town to drive out al Qaeda Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 14:52, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

al Qaeda control of around half of the town of Al Mukalla.Reuters Hanibal911 (talk) 15:21, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Aden

I think we need to use a map of Aden like the one in Aleppo in the Syrian map. This is the best map of Aden I have seen so far https://twitter.com/HKarimi1991/status/583663723404922881/photo/1 .3bdulelah (talk) 16:21, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

3bdulelah You can refer to this editor he made maps for Aleppo, Hasakah, Deir ez Zor and some other.here Hanibal911 (talk) 16:29, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, what are you waiting for? Ricardomoha (talk) 09:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think so, but we need a map of "Aden Governorate" [8] not just the "little aden" Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 15:04, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Little Aden status

Here is Little Aden location :https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Little+Aden,+Yemen/@12.7524447,44.8712306,13z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x161e18ff95efae39:0x290bc13f189f6323

Does anyone have any information regarding Little Aden? who controls it? Jumada (talk) 14:41, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Update detailed map file and AQAP influence

Could someone please update the map file that uses this template (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yemen_war_detailed_map.png) ? It is several days old, and is missing the arc showing the Houthi advance up to Ataq.

Also, what is the evidence for the huge areas of AQAP influnce shown both in the north and right smack in the middle of Houthi territory? There seems to be no basis for this.

--Cuparsk | ‏الحسين‎ 13:33, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Last updated four days ago, but I will update seeing as this map is relatively easy to update. No idea about the markers, my normal response to odd markers is to question them and not update the map (rather than unilaterally removing then updating the map). Banak (talk) 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Ataq some source regarding its capture by Houthis.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/04/houthis-capture-ataq-city-saudi-led-air-strikes-150409130453991.html
Really i dont see Operation Decisive Storm being decisive, unless for a Houthis Victory over Hadi forces.Mr.User200 (talk) 17:31, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Another update needed: The Houthis are alot farther in then previously reported...Saleh loyalists were even controlling Balhaf until Tribesmen seized it today. Yemen's main gas factory has closed because the fighting is too close.

Hanish and Zuqar Island

Based on this old report from Jazerra, Hanish Island is with the Houthis.