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Send on behalf of The Wikipedia Library using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:31, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SYNTHESIS AND SPECULATION

Uh, no. This:

The issue led to comparisons between Kerry's presidential campaign and that of John F. Kennedy in 1960. While Kennedy had to demonstrate his independence from the Roman Catholic Church due to public fear that a Catholic president would make decisions based on the Holy See agenda, it seemed that Kerry, in contrast, had to show obedience to Catholic authorities in order to win votes.[1][2][3][4][5] According to Margaret Ross Sammons, Kerry's campaign was sufficiently damaged by the threat to withhold communion that it may have cost him the election. Sammons argues that President George W. Bush was able to win 53% of the Catholic vote because he appealed to "traditional" Catholics.[6]

IS TEXTBOOK SYNTHESIS AND POV SPECULATION. Quis separabit? 00:11, 9 July 2015 (UTC) [reply]

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference SDUT was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ McAteer, Michael (June 26, 2004). "Questioning Catholic hierarchy's priorities". Toronto Star.
  3. ^ Jacoby, Susan (May 3, 2004). "The Catholic Church and the Presidential Election: Vatican makes common cause with fundamentalist Protestants". San Francisco Chronicle.
  4. ^ Balz, Dan; Cooperman, Alan (June 4, 2004). "Bush, Pope to Meet Today at the Vatican". Washington Post.
  5. ^ Gibson, David (2007). The Rule of Benedict: Pope Benedict XVI and His Battle with the Modern World. HarperCollins. p. 42.
  6. ^ Heyer, Kristin E.; Rozell, Mark J.; Genovese, Michael A. (2008). Catholics and politics: the dynamic tension between faith and power. Georgetown University Press. p. 21. ISBN 978-1-58901-215-8. Retrieved 18 February 2012.


(talk page stalker) It may be speculation, but its speculation on the part of the ref authors. It seems reasonably well sourced to me, the question is if it is of due weight or not. Gaijin42 (talk) 00:19, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:Rms125a@hotmail.com, the comparison and analysis comes directly from the sources. Please review WP:NOR. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:08, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

John F. Harvey

Whoa. Next time, check your aggression short of supporting an AFD to get the upper hand in an edit war. As here: [[1]].E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What? The original creator nominated it to get the upper hand, as should be very clear to you. What did I do to you to get you recommending a topic ban on the basis of spam cleanup and then coming to my talk page to yell this nonsense? What's your problem, dude? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:20, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Planned Parenthood

Your claim of an "obvious BLP violation" on the Planned Parenthood page, isn't a BLP issue. I will give you the courtesy to revert yourself or I will report you for violation of 1RR. There are several sources listed within that section including ones that fit RS.Marauder40 (talk) 20:07, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, there is totally no BLP issue in accusing someone of selling organs for money. Geez. --JBL (talk) 21:06, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
you mean someone caught on video doing just that. Marauder40 (talk) 22:49, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The fact (Personal attack removed) does not, in fact, mean that poorly sourced attack pieces suddenly are BLP-compliant. --JBL (talk) 00:04, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:Marauder40, normally I'd respond to your "I'll report you for removing the unsourced claim that living, named individuals are selling organs on the black market" with a "come at me, bro", but I'm pretty busy IRL right now. Come at me next week, maybe? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:09, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

July 2015

I am filing WP:AE#Roscelese with regard to your recent editing of Homosexuality and Roman Catholicism. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ARCA request

You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Clarification request: Christianity and Sexuality and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.

Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 16:17, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing out Wandering Stars

That was exactly what I was looking for. It definitely should be kept, but not the link to the main yiddishbookcenter.org . --Ronz (talk) 17:01, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Before I get too into it...

Which Dr. Miracle do you prefer?

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52505178x/f1.zoom.r=contes%20d%27hoffmann.langEN

or

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b55003564w.r=contes+d%27hoffmann.langEN

or

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85274984/f9.zoom.r=Les%20contes%20d%27Hoffmann%20Offenbach

?

Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:19, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The first one, where he looks the creepiest. :D –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:59, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Planned Parenthood David Daleiden

Dear Roscelese,

Given your removal of oversighted additions on 15 July 2015, you may want to see this change using rollback. The article David Daleiden has details which could be condensed.

-- Callinus (talk) 06:19, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"'Scare quotes'"

Please reconsider your revert on Orson Scott Card. Crazy person though he may be, he is entitled to a fair shake in our readers eyes. The practice of adding quotes around a single word to highlight your distaste for said word is a time honored tradition in newspaper editorials where I began writing; but it really doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Here if evenly presented facts are not enough to convince a reader of something they should generally remain unconvinced.

I like what you did placing "Scare quotes" within scare quotes, btw. Chrononem ☎ 20:05, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Homosexuality and the Bible

This is my first time editing a Wikipedia article and I have read the policies and guidelines. I write as a minister who has written nine articles on this topic since 2003.

I have made the following addition: "Some passages in the Bible which prohibit homosexuality have traditionally been interpreted literally—apart from their historical context of pervasive temple prostitution. (Wink and Pope refs) Some interpreters maintain that the condemnation of homosexuality in these texts is determinative for gays today, while others state that the 'abomination' of homosexuality was based on the ancient understanding that semen was the sacred giver of life (the woman serving only as an incubator). Moreover, many ancient sexual prohibitions—including intercourse during menstruation, masturbation and birth control—are no longer followed by Christians. Thus, Jesus' love ethic—used to critique and reject these ancient sexual practices of the Bible—may also be used to critique and reject ancient prohibitions against homosexuality. (Wink ref)"

My reasons for this addition:

1. While I left in place the first sentence stating the traditional position, I indicated these scriptures have a historical context which is pertinent: Temple prostitution is one significant example.

2. Another pertinent context is the prescientific understanding of the biblical author which explains the reason why one verse each for homosexuality (Lev. 20:13) and masturbation (Gen. 38:10) prescribed the death penalty.

3. As sexual practices have radically changed from ancient times, scholar Walter Wink's advocacy for Jesus' love ethic to critique all sexual (and other) behavior is noteworthy.

The deleted passage is: "Today too some interpreters uphold that understanding of these passages, while other interpreters maintain that they do not condemn homosexuality,[weasel words] saying that historical context suggests other interpretations or that rare or unusual words in the passages may not be referring to homosexuality."

My reasons for this deletion:

1. The first third of the sentence is similar to the addition. It could give a reason for traditional interpretation.

2. The remaining two-thirds of the sentence is vague regarding the reasons for the understanding of "other interpreters." More specificity, as the edit above, helps the reader's understanding.

The above edit provides needed information. Should resolution be needed, I am open to discussion.

Quoflector (talk) 23:15, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, LGBT parenting article

Hi, can you please look at my talk points in the LGBT parenting article. I see you deleted my work and I want to dialog about this. Hope to hear from you soon.24.92.249.215 (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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