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This is the current revision of this page, as edited by Flyer22 Frozen (talk | contribs) at 17:44, 20 December 2015 ("Anatomically male," "anatomically female," "male sex organs"). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this version.

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Welcome!

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Hello, Aristophanesiris, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

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Civility

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I appreciate your contributions to the articles about Brandon Teena and Gwen Araujo. I would like to point out that Wikipedia depends on civility to function properly, and disparaging the work of previous editors as "transmisogynist" when they probably intended to be clinically objective, does not foster that. Thanks. –Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:03, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Anatomically male," "anatomically female," "male sex organs"

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Hello, Aristophanesiris. Regarding edits like this and this, I agree with what Jason A. Quest stated to you above. And like I stated in response to you, "The wording 'anatomically female' is not transphobic, not even when referring to a trans man who has female anatomy, but I agree that the wording was contentious and that your wording is better." I understand that you are trying to do good, but do consider that editors that added such wording likely had no transphobic intentions, and that, while you may not see sex organs or breasts as being male or female, the vast majority of the literature on anatomy does distinguish anatomy in that way when it comes to the sexes. Also remember that the vast majority of society is not well-versed in transgender topics and issues. This doesn't mean that we should condone ignorance, but it does mean that we should generally assume good faith in these cases. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 17:37, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That stated, I can see how "anatomically male" or "anatomically female" can be used in a transphobic way. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 17:43, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]