Talk:Carnosine
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Moved further reading section
I have no idea how to edit the main section of carnosine, but here is a citation to support the notion that vegetarian diets do in fact lack it. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/jan2006_awsi_01.htm email me if you want to explain how to edit it. Hilsee@gmail.com delete this when it is added as a citation. thanks to whomever does such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.31.82.146 (talk) 20:15, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
The lef.org article may not be a valid citation as I read elsewhere (http://www.therawdiet.com/supplements.html) the lef.org site sells a vegan carnosine supplement. There is an inherent conflict of interest here, I think. Davidresseguie (talk) 15:45, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
I move this here, I doubt if this has been used to write the article, though they may be useful to expand the article:
- Boldyrev AA, Koldobski A, Kurella E, Maltseva V, and, Stvolinski S (1993) Natural histidine-containing dipeptide carnosine as a potent hydrophilic antioxidant with membrane stabilizing function. A biochemical aspect. Molecular and Chemical Neuropathology. 19:185-192.
- Batrukova MA, and Rubstov AM (1997) Histidine-containing dipeptides as endogenous regulators of the activity of sarcoplasmic reticulum Ca-release channels. Biochimica et Biophysica Acta. 1324:142-150.
- Derave W, Özdemir MS, Harris RC, Pottier A, Reyngoudt H, Koppo K, Wise JA, and Achten E (2007) Beta-alanine supplementation augments muscle carnosine content and attenuates fatigue during repeated isokinetic contraction bouts in trained sprinters. Journal of Applied Physiology (Aug 9, 2007) doi10.1152/japlphysiol00397-2007.
- Dunnet M, and Harris RC (1995) Carnosine and taurine contents of different fibre types in the middle gluteal muscle of the Thoroughbred horse. Equine Veterinary Journal [Suppl] 18:214-217.
- Dunnet M, Harris RC, Soliman MZ, and Suwar AAS (1997) Carnosine, anserine and taurine contents in individual fibres from the middle gluteal muscle of the camel. Research in Veterinary Science. 62:213-216.
- Harris RC, Marlin DJ, Dunnett M, Snow DH, Hultman E (1990) Muscle buffering capacity and dipeptide content in the Thoroughbred horse, greyhound dog and man. Comparative Biochemistry and Physiology. 97(2):249-251.
- Harris RC, Dunnett M, Greenhaff PL (1998) Carnosine and taurine contents in individual fibres in human vastus lateralis muscle. Journal of Sports Science. 16:639-643.
- Harris RC, Kim HJ, Harris DB, Hill CA, Kim CK, Boobis L, Sale C, and Wise JA (2005) The distribution of carnosine and taurine in different muscle fibre types from human v lateralis and the effects of beta-alanine supplementation. Amino Acids. 29:13
- Harris RC, Tallon MJ, Dunnett M, Boobis L, Coakley J, Kim HJ, Fallowfield JL, Hill CA, Sale C, and Wise JA (2006) The absorption of orally supplied β-alanine and its effect on muscle carnosine synthesis in human vastus lateralis. Amino Acids. 30:279-289.
- Hill CA, Harris RC, Kim HJ, Harris DB, Sale C, Boobis LH, Kim CK, and Wise JA (2007) Influence of β-alanine supplementation on skeletal muscle carnosine concentrations and high intensity cycling capacity. Amino Acids. 32:225-233.
- Hipkiss AR, Michaelis J, and Syrris P (1995) Non-enzymatic glycosylation of the dipeptide L-carnosine, a potential anti-protein-cross-linking agent. FEBS Lett. 371:81-85.
- Hipkiss AR (2000) Carnosine and protein carbonyl groups: a possible relationship. Biochemistry (Mosc.) 65:771-778.
- Kim HJ, Kim CK, Lee YW, Harris RC, Sale C, Harris DB, and Wise JA (2006) The effect of a supplement containing β-alanine on muscle carnosine synthesis and exercise capacity, during 12 wk combined endurance and weight training. Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition. 3(1): S9.
- Suzuki Y, Ito O, Mukai N, Takahashi H, Takamatsu K (2002) High level of skeletal muscle carnosine contributes to the latter half of exercise performance during 30-s maximal cycle ergometer sprinting. The Japanese Journal of Physiology. Apr;52(2):199-205.
- Suzuki Y, Ito O, Takamatsu K (2004) The effect of sprint training on skeletal muscle carnosine in humans. International Journal of Sport Health Science. 2:105-110.
- Suzuki Y, Nakao T, Maemura H, sato M, Kamahara K, Morimatsu F, and Takamatsu K (2006) Carnosine and Anserine Ingestion Enhances Contribution of Nonbicarbonate Buffering. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise. 38(2):334-338
- Tallon MJ, Harris RC, Maffulli N, and Tarnopolsky M (2007) Carnosine, taurine and enzyme activities of human skeletal muscle fibres from elderly subjects with osteoarthritis and young moderately active subjects. Biogerontology. 8:129-137.
- Tomonaga S ; Tachibana T ; Takagi T ; Saito ES ; Zhang R ; Denbow DM ; Furuse M (2004) "Effect of central administration of carnosine and its constituents on behaviors in chicks", Brain Res Bull. 2004; 63(1) pp. 75-82 (ISSN 0361-9230)
- PubMed search on "carnosine" and "cataracts"
- Ben Best, "L-Carnosine and Related Histidine-Derived Molecules"
--Dirk Beetstra T C 12:37, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Carnosine for Muscle Growth
What's up with the hype about Carnosine for weightlifting as in H-Blocker ? Maybe, it is just a marketing fraud. I found the following reference, which some of the Carnosine selling companies build on:
- Hoffman, J., et al. (2006). Effect of creatine and B-alanine supplementation on performance and endocrine responses in strength/power athletes. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 38:S126. IM
I did not bother to read it, though, as I'm not an expert and could not judge anyhow, whether the journal was professional. SebastianHellmann (talk) 08:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Reference Needed
It ocurred to me, as to the quest for a reference towards the end of the article, http://www.tritolonen.fi/files/pdf/hipkiss_nyas.pdf, p. 371 might help, but not sure. 219.110.234.167 (talk) 03:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Do humans make their own carnosine
How much carnosine per day does a human need, and how much can be synthesised from the constituent amino acids ? β-Alanine supplementation augments muscle carnosine content and attenuates fatigue during repeated isokinetic contraction bouts in trained sprinters suggests we can make it given enough β-Alanine in the diet. - Rod57 (talk) 13:05, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
What proportion of dietary carnosine is broken up before absorbtion ? - Rod57 (talk) 12:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
What relative masses of L-hystidine and B-Alanine to make Carnosine in the body?
What relative masses of L-hystidine and B-Alanine are needed to make Carnosine in the body? I read that carnosine would be destroyed in the digestive tract, so the body needs the two precursors. Some suppliments have both. How much relative quantities of each are needed stoichiometrically? 71.139.160.208 (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2016 (UTC)