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Mean monthly sunshine hours

The "Mean monthly sunshine hours" label is wrong for the "Year" column. The "Year" column gives the total of all the monthly means. Either the label should be changed to "Mean sunshine hours" or the "Year" column should give the mean monthly sunshine hours, similar to what it does for the "Mean daily sunshine hours" row. Kendall-K1 (talk) 16:10, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed the label in the sandbox. Any objections before I roll this out? Kendall-K1 (talk) 01:18, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like error in |temperature colour=none

On the rainfall lines start off with white (maybe). but starts blue after a few months. Or maybe when rain is more than 100mm a month. see Climate of the Philippines. 194.75.238.182 (talk) 22:42, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GENIUS IDEA

Let's have two extra rows: average MONTHLY absolute maximum temperature, and average MONTHLY absolute minimum tempreature, placed under Record high and above record low, respectively — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koopatrev (talk • contribs) 05:12, 15 March 2016‎

I'm not sure that is a good idea. What countries show that data? CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 10:39, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hong Kong does, i mean most countries don't do that but if they don't we can just leave it blank. I manually calculated here: http://www.hko.gov.hk/cis/monthlyElement_e.htm?ele=MAX_TEMP @CambridgeBayWeather: Koopatrev (talk) 03:30, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well I not really convinced but I'm not really opposed either. And I see that nobody has removed your additions anyway. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:29, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

temporal range norms

I seem to notice (just from looking at a few, not a systematic sample) that most US weather boxes currently provide statistics for weather over 1981-2010. I'm thinking, given that

  • the norm for presenting statistics over 20 recent years seems reasonable
  • we're now well into 2016, so 2015 data is available
  • there is climate change

weatherboxes should start providing data over the temporal range 1986-2015. Am I missing something? Tlroche (talk) 00:49, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's a 30 year mean for climate standards. The US, like other counties, provide the 30 year means/averages along with record highs and lows since the particular station was in operation in accordance to the World Meteorological Organization. For example here is the Cambridge Bay data where the means are over a 30 year period and the extremes in temperature date back to 1930. According to the WMO, who define the standards in the last paragraph. So the next period starts 10 years after the last and is 1991-2020.
To go to a 1986-2015 period would mean a lot of work. You would need to get 30 years worth of data for each station and then calculate the means. Too much chance for error. Also it would mean that Wikipedia is not showing the world standard information leading to claims of original research. Much better, and easier, to follow the WMO standards where we only have to repeat what the government of the country has produced. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:29, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

howto?

Is there a weatherbox howto? Or just a detailed example showing how to produce a weatherbox (using this template) for a given geography's wikipage ab initio? What I mean, why I ask (hopefully without WTMI):

  • I have an interest in some particular US geographies and in humidity. I notice that the Phoenix weather box has a row for average relative humidity, which I'd like to add to the weatherboxes on a few other pages.
  • I have some experience with met/climate data, with some available API and with brute-force scarping where API are not available.
  • I'm a coder, and I run Linux, so I'm reasonably confident I can run most scientific codes. (Plus I see you have the online sandbox for the Lua module=WeatherBox.)

Hence I'd like to contribute to Wikipedia (for which I also edit and author other content) by updating (e.g., with newer temporal ranges) or extending some weatherboxes (at least those of particular current interest to me :-). However I can't see how to do this. I see the Lua module, and I see that the source for most US weatherbox data is NOAA NOWData, but I see nothing about, e.g., how to input the data to the module.

Am I missing something? If not, can someone who has previously done a weatherbox generate a quick/skeletal weatherbox howto? I would cheerfully work through it and "flesh it out," but I can't see where/how to start. Tlroche (talk) 00:49, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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