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The halo
From one of the sources given:
- 'In a media briefing at Albert Park Whiting announced that development of the system is progressing well with the FIA aiming to bring in the concept next season."
Given this, the FIA's intent to introduce the halo is clear. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 12:40, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
- Great that they have the intent, but it doesn't mean the 2017 introduction is confirmed. Tvx1 01:23, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- Using that logic, we should remove all of the drivers and races because although they might intend to go ahead, they're certainly not confirmed. You're the great champion of "the articles should reflect the FIA position precisely" point of view, but now you're going against that for no apparent reason. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:15, 20 March 2016 (UTC) Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:15, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- Your logic is nonsense. They have not added the rule to the rulebook yet, so we can't convey this as confirmed rule change yet. That's as simple as it can be. We are reflecting the FIA's position perfectly by not including it. Their stance of "we would like to have this included" is not sufficient to list this as a confirmed rule change. And as you are full well aware none of the races and drivers are confirmed. They are contracted and we list them as such. That's correctly representing the sources. Tvx1 10:03, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- Using that logic, we should remove all of the drivers and races because although they might intend to go ahead, they're certainly not confirmed. You're the great champion of "the articles should reflect the FIA position precisely" point of view, but now you're going against that for no apparent reason. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:15, 20 March 2016 (UTC) Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:15, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- Do you see now why we couldn't claim cockpit protection would be introduced for 2017? Tvx1 16:52, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Races contracted for 2016 but not 2017
I know this was discussed before, but I still don't get it or see the point in it. I mean, we don't have the same for drivers contracted for 2016 but not 2017, so why do we have it for races? CDRL102 (talk) 16:13, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
- The "but not" drivers list would just about be the 2016 table entirely. Races often get deals in excess of 5 years, many over 10, and thus most races are contracted to happen by the following season's article. Driver deals rarely exceed 3 years anymore. Even Lewis has had two 3-year deals with Mercedes. Most are just year-to-year. That means every season there will only be a handful, at most, of drivers contracted. Same with the rest of the team info. If nothing is known other than their participation, we don't include them. It avoids a giant blank table on top of another giant full table. Basically, it's just unsightly. Twirly Pen (Speak up) 09:10, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm not trying to say we should have it for drivers, because yes that would be stupid, but I also think it's stupid to have a section under races for 2017 saying, those under contract for 2016 but not 2017. Why do we have it, it's almost irrelevant to this page. CDRL102 (talk) 13:21, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
- It's relevant to the present and it wouldn't be far-fetched that an observant reader not seeing the Italian Grand Prix, for example, may wonder where it went or what happened to it. This small portion of the table gives readers an answer with a source, and goes away once the first provisional calendar is released and is replaced with prose as a calendar change. Twirly Pen (Speak up) 06:03, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- From the recent edits, this is the exact reason I think the Races Under Contact for 2016 but not 2017 should be removed. It's very confusing in the case of the Italian GP. I really just think it needs taken out, only races contracted for 2017 should be in that table. CDRL102 (talk) 17:51, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- It was just a misunderstanding which has been solved now. Tvx1 08:38, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- From the recent edits, this is the exact reason I think the Races Under Contact for 2016 but not 2017 should be removed. It's very confusing in the case of the Italian GP. I really just think it needs taken out, only races contracted for 2017 should be in that table. CDRL102 (talk) 17:51, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Table infrastructure
@MetalDylan — there is no need to add additional, hidden columns to the tables that will not be needed for months. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 12:18, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
Sergio Perez Signed and Confirmed?
Although the source we have for Perez's confirmation to Force India may have come from a rather hopeful Vijay, it does not seem to be the case that Perez will driver for the FI team in 2017. A reliable counter source in Autosport outlines not only this fact; of that his sponsors ultimately decide his future, but that Renault are also in talks with signing him. I bring this to light because an inside, but not a 'trusted' source has come fourth to say that Perez is indeed going to Renault. I don't announce Perez to be included in the Renault slot, but instead leave him TBA until a more solid and recent source comes about. *JoeTri10_ 00:34, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- As has been reiterated nearly every year, our table is list of signed drivers. The source states that Perez has a contract with Force India for 2017. Only if his contract is terminated and/or one with another team is signed we can remove him from the table. Tvx1 02:10, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
McLaren has replaced Button with Vandoorne for 2017, confirmed by Ron Dennis
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/17455120/mclaren-replaces-jenson-button-stoffel-vandoorne-2017