Talk:IPod Shuffle

For a Janaury 2005 deletion debate over this page see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/IPod shuffle

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We might want to add that apple suggests on their website: Do not eat iPod shuffle.. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 21:36, 2005 Jan 11 (UTC)

I noticed that too. Also, the uk version of the site is almost identical, but replaces the word "eat" with "chew". Strange, no? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 22:58, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)

'Chew' makes more sense, seeing as it part of the chewing gum comparison.

Should I add this site to the links? [1] --Mrmiscellanious 03:24, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Umm, please don't, although I do think that the criticisms of the iPod shuffle should be included in the article. I'm not going to do it myself just yet, to avoid the wrath of the cult of mac :) --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 18:07, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)

Why? I guarantee you, there is at least one criticing remark for every single product on the US market. Not to mention, most of the criticisms for the shuffle as of right now are just mud-slinging in the business world against corporations. It's nothing out of the ordinary. --24.247.211.104 00:25, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Might be worth noting somewhere that unlike all of the other iPods, the Shuffle is currently supported *ONLY* by iTunes. No free software (such as gnupod or gtkpod) support the iPod Shuffle. This is likely to change in the near future, though. James Foster 00:07, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

gtkpod has iPod Shuffle support in 0.88. A.Kurtz 06:22, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Uhh....is the Chewing and eating thing really necessary? HereToHelp 00:37, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Hardware

A section on the hardware would be nice lmno 12:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Ride With Me?

Is this song Ride by The Vines?

The "Downloading music" section

I've removed the section below from the article. First of all, I don't think it is needed, since the iPod and iTunes Music Store articles already explain how to get music on the iPod. The article is about the iPod Shuffle, and this section is about the iPod in general. It also contains incorrect information: it doesn't mention the possibility of ripping music from original audio CDs, suggesting that if you don't have access to the iTunes Music Store you necessarily have to use another online store. The list of countries is largely unneeded, a link to iTunes Music Store would suffice. It is not encyclopedic (it should say "the user", not "you"). As I already said, I don't think it's needed, but if someone wants to add it back please address these issues first. Mushroom 15:48, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

The iPod relies on its bundled (free) iTunes software, which is the only way of being able to add songs to the Shuffle playlist. Unfortunately if you live outside the narrow list of 21 countries served by the iTunes store (see below), you cannot purchase any of the music, only listen to short samples.

Other stores like eMusic will allow you to purchase MP3 format music, which you then have to add to your iTunes library by selecting the "Add Files" menu. Should you wish to listen to any music downloaded using the Windows Media format, you will have to "burn" these tunes to a CD, and then use the iTunes software to "rip" the CD to add these files to the iTunes library. Some loss of quality is likely to occur during this process.

You can download and listen to audio books, and then add them using the "Add Files" option. Sites like audible.com even offer a free iPod shuffle to new members who take advantage of a special offer limited to certain countries. Apple's iTunes store also offers some audio books, if you live in a country that is allowed to buy music from iTunes.

The countries served by iTunes is: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK, USA

No explanation is offered by Apple why South Africa, New Zealand, India, Hong Kong, Zimbabwe, Kenya or other English-speaking countries are excluded, even though Apple sells its products in most of these countries. Fortunately Podcasts are not restricted in this way.

The reason why ripping original CDs is not mentioned in the "Downloading Music" section is that it refers to downloaded music, not music from CDs. I will rewrite the portions that are relevant to the Shuffle, and contribute the rest as suggested. DonnEdwards 18 November 2005

This is not true. you can also put music on your iPod legally by ripping it from a CD. iPods can play any MP3 audio file, and there are plenty of non-itunes ways to put music on your ipod. -209.174.140.100 18:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Chewing

"The UK and Ireland site had a slightly reworded version: "Do not chew iPod shuffle," while some other versions of the site, such as the Canadian, French and German versions, made no mention of this. These warnings have since been removed."

Why have these warnings been removed? Damiancorrigan 01:05, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Why'd you need the warning? Did you chew up yours and it didn't work afterwards? Are you surprised? --Cuyaya 10:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Removal of definite article

From what I can see of Apple's pages, they never call it "the iPod shuffle"; they always refer to it as "iPod shuffle" (sans 'the'). I'm hardly a WP veteran, so what's policy on this? Should we follow suit, as with Editors and BALTIC, or stubbornly stick to proper English grammar in the face of marketing idiocy? Tyrhinis 22:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

iPod Shuffle software

Would it be okay to list some software alternatives to iTunes for the Shuffle? There are a couple that I am aware of that work well. Jaberwocky6669 03:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:External links. Thanks. AlistairMcMillan 03:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

A while back I added this link to the article:

iPod Shuffle Unleashed iPod Shuffle without iTunes.

It was deemed as spam but I don't see how! The page is directly related to the ipod shuffle and the software is free. Nobody gains from the use of the software except for the user of the software. I really think it should be added back! Jaberwocky6669 03:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Remove RAID section

So someone made a RAID array using a portable storage device? So what? Non encyclopaedic. Suggest delete. jamiemcc 22:26, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I concur. I have removed that section, as there is no need to list every single project a person has done with the iPod shuffle into this article. That experiment is solely his own, and does not contribute to the understanding of the iPod shuffle. People who wish to look for it should Google it instead. –- kungming·2 | ^(Talk·^Contact) 22:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Questions about the shuffle

1. Can music be transferred without using special software? (e.g. if I'm on a friend's computer and want to copy an MP3 file)
2. Is it possible to set the shuffle to play in alphabetical order? (I'm thinking of listening to podcasts, where I want to listen to them in order - at least if it's alphabetical, it's easier to go forward/back till I find it.)

Thanks. --Singkong2005 ^{(t - c - WPID)} 08:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

iPod shuffle "Green Lights of Death"

I tagged this section as non-NPOV for a few reasons:

• It was added by a questionable user, 159.83.4.140, who might possibly be a vandal.
• The same section was added to the iPod page, suggesting that 159.83.4.140 has a sort of anti-iPod mentality.
• The section (before modifications) was decidedly anti-Apple and not conforming to existing Wikipedia Neutral-point-of-view policy.
• Other than a single PC World article, no verification was given about the problem in question.

Would someone please clarify and make the said section more meaningful? Thank you. –- kungming·2 | ^(Talk·^Contact) 22:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, what date should we put for the iPod shuffle 2.0 "Retail Availability"

I'm going with October. Yes, technically you can purchase the new version of the iPod shuffle but it will not ship until October.[2] That probably is consider "pre-ordering" which is not the same as release date or the retail availability. In fact, Apple's own press release stated: The new iPod shuffle is expected to be available worldwide in October through the Apple Store® (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers for $79 (US).[3] The reason why I had to discuss because someone reverted an anonymous contributor's edits regarding the October release date. --Oskar Mayer Nguyener 05:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd stick with September 12. That's technically the release date of the product. Retail availability is hard to peg down to an exact date because it won't be uniform across the board via web, stores, etc... JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 17:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Come to think of it. We should probably just change "retail availability" to "release date" The first gen wasn't available on January 11 either. JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 17:43, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

shouldn't all the sizes and weights be in metric units? I don't want to change this in case there's a whole set of rules for when to use what, but I guess that would make stuff a whole lot clearer for 90 percent of the world. thanks

Odd internal linking

I have noticed some odd internal linking on some phrases or symbols that aren't usually links, e.g. $ and fashion. Should the links be removed? --I80and 17:11, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

No. The dollar one is to specify that it refers to USD not another country's "dollar". JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 20:12, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

New Shuffle

The new shuffle DOESN'T use a dock connector, the headphone jack doubles as a connector. "iPod shuffle’s headphone jack does double-duty as a dock connector." http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/features.html

Merge

I oppose this merger. The article should remain seperate. JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 16:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Please continue this at Talk:iPod models and software AlistairMcMillan 18:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)