Talk:Imposters (TV series)

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Production codes

When series such as Imposters air episodes in exactly the same order as they were produced (i.e. episodes air in the same order as as the production codes), there is no need to list the production codes in the episodes table (i.e. it's "redundant" info). I'm in no hurry to remove the prod. codes column from the episodes table right now, but myself or any other editor would be justified in removing the prod. codes column on this basis. FWIW. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:35, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Title is clearly censored

The title varies on official and unofficial sources, so it is clearly censored and not for creative reasons. helmboy 05:18, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.bravotv.com/imposters/episode-guide

Old Unresolved Sh--

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/imposters/listings/ and zap2it and imdb

Old Unresolved S...

https://www.nbcumv.com/programming/bravo/imposters/episodes-schedule?network=33132

Old Unresolved Sh*t

We use Futon and Zap2It as our column sources – there it's "Old Unresolved S...". That's how it should be listed here. We follow the sourcing. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:26, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If people are interested in the "full" title (and, FTR, I find this kind of thing to be a pointless exercise...), then the RTitle parameter will have to be used for that episode, and a source that actually spells it all the way out will have to be used as the inline source. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:47, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bravo and NBC are official sources. Futon and Zap2It just edit press releases. And given two official sources are inconstant on the title, it's obviously been censored. helmboy 09:35, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter what you think. If you can't provide a source with the full spelling, the full spelling is WP:OR. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 12:49, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@IJBall: Can't you read the three sources above have three alternate titles of the censored title and of the three you are reverting to the unofficial censored version. helmboy 13:12, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, no – as you say, the scheduling sites are from press releases: press releases are "official" – they're from the network, and thus are WP:PRIMARY sources. Regardless, none of the sources you provided actually spell out the whole word. The best you can do is use the NBCUMV one in the RTitle parameter, and spell it "Sh*t". Anything more than that is actually WP:OR. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:15, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@IJBall: I've left to the admin who uncensored the title to sort out as clearly you don't understand the difference between censorship for publication and pseudo censorship for creative effect. helmboy 13:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You seem not to understand WP:Verifiability, not truth – on Wikipedia, it doesn't matter what you "know" to be true, it only matters what you can source. And as you haven't produced a source that spells the whole word out, it can't be spelled out, or it's WP:OR. This actually has nothing to do with WP:NOTCENSORED, because you haven't produced a "not censored" source. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:21, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@IJBall: Awaiting admin. And the only word Sh*t can be is Shit when censorship is clearly invoked. No WP:OR is needed. And don't reply to me when the admin who uncensored it has yet to comment. helmboy 13:26, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Doing that is either WP:OR or WP:SYNTH. Either way, you can't do it – it needs to be sourced. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Oshwah's own edit summary said "WP:NOTCENSORED (unless this is what the episode is actually titled as? With the asterisks?) In other words, he was basically asking for sourcing showing it fully spelled out. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:30, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@IJBall: You don't understand that a clear source was requested to show that the title is censored for creative effect. As has been noted above all three sources are different, so there is NO clear source. The only source that can now be use to justify the censored title is an image of the script for the episode. helmboy 13:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've said all I'm going to say. Let's wait for Oshwah to chime in now. P.S. And, yes – a picture of the script title page (uncensored) from a verified social media account would work as an acceptable source. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:44, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@IJBall: You are the one that needs to prove it's censored for creative effect with the script as it's already proven that it as been censored by the varying titles used. And you should be given a warning for your reverting multiple times without stated proof. helmboy 13:51, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]