Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maharashtra Forest Department

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 20:09, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maharashtra Forest Department

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Prod removed without rationale or improvement. No indication of notability.Would have redirected, but it is so poorly written, not even sure what this is about, or where to redirect. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:35, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. samee converse 12:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:51, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:51, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I added some references. This is a government department of an Indian state. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:20, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I wish people would use a bit of common sense before nominating articles for deletion. Of course a government department in a state with a population of over a hundred million is notable. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 19:57, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- actually, notability is not inherited, so unless a government agency has reliable sourcing it is not notable. Also, try to be WP:civil, it doesn't hurt to not be a jerk. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 21:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I made no claim that notability is inherited, but simply appealed to the basic common sense that anyone editing an encyclopedia should have. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 16:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, you are correct El cid, el campeador, but it is a good indicator to notability (just like a book that is held by a large number of libraries gives an indication that it may be notable), following up on what 86.17.222.157 says, the MFD manages around 50,000sqkm of forests, and has over 15,000 staff (info from 2013 statistical outline found on its website) so it is highly likely that this dept is notable, anyway, the additions to the article made by Eastmain shows the MFD to be notable, indeed entering "Maharashtra Forest Department" in gsearch news brings up 100s of articles about MFD that could also be used to expand the article. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:57, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is a department of the Government of Maharashtra and it is headed by a minister. I understand that notability is not inherent, but I guess at the very least state government departments headed by a minister should be notable? There is always coverage (though most would be in Marathi) and it manages quite a vast area of forests.--DreamLinker (talk) 09:09, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The minister would be notable per WP:POLITICIAN, so of course the department that he heads is notable. This is just the kind of thing that I meant by my appeal to common sense (a quality that seems to be lacking in many of the people who hang around our deletion processes) above. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 20:37, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Just a reminder to the nominator and other participants that WP:BEFORE includes this line:

If there are verifiability, notability or other sourcing concerns, take reasonable steps to search for reliable sources. (See step D.)

My quick Google search turned up enough references to establish notability. If the nominator had done those same searches, perhaps he or she would not have prodded or AfDed the article. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:23, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. If there is an article on this department in the Marathi-language Wikipedia, perhaps this article could be expanded with information from the Marathi one, and the Marathi one could be expanded with information from this one. In the same way, perhaps articles on the other government departments of Maharashtra could be created or expanded using information from the Marathi Wikipedia. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:23, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.