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Categorization

The previous categorizations of Psychology and Human Development are relevant, the categorization of religion is not. If the sources cited are not convincing, you may also wish to see these two articles on the organization: [1], [2]. -- Craigtalbert 03:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requiring distinction between 'Recovery' and 'Recovery Inc.' ?

Regarding the following line:

As the organization matured, GROW members learned of Recovery International, an organization also created to help people with serious mental illness, and integrated pieces of its will-training methods.

Prior to being called GROW, the organisation was known as Recovery. While it acknowledges Recovery International/Recovery Inc. within GROW Comes of Age [3], confusion as to the links between the two organisations could still be made - perhaps this should be re-written a little more clearly to emphasise that they are two different organisations? --Gaianchild (talk) 06:01, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that GROW used to be known as Recovery, but it was never known as Recovery International. I agree though that it could be confusing, and a short clarification couldn't hurt. So long as it follows the guideline on using self-published sources, I think that's fine.
Somewhat related, since you are a GROW member, you will want to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's guidelines regarding conflicts of interest. -- Scarpy (talk) 08:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'll happily take a look at the COI page, thanks. My interest here is not pushing an agenda of any questionable sort, merely a desire for information as accurate as possible. :) -- Gaianchild (talk) 09:14, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Homophobia and religion in grow

A number of Grow's current publications, particuarly their 'red book' contain homophobic sections. They still describe homosexuality as a mental illness. Also, while grow claims to be non religious, there is plenty of religion within the group. Finally there is an ongoing issue with staff abuse of grow members, particuarly in New South Wales. In order to introduce these aspects to the article, what is the refrencing standard required? For example can I quote sections of their red book? Do I just need the quote aned page numbers? Can I quote coroner's reports? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.74.130 (talk) 02:40, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

@202.124.74.130: it's best to used coverage of these events in newspapers, journals, and other periodicals. - Scarpy (talk) 21:04, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Waste of time, didn't meet my needs, nor did it utilize my Mental Health qualifications/ skills. A very unstable community has far as numbers and attendance are concerned. Unreliable in 12 step calls, often felt totally unsupported through the week by some members. The organisation seems to be living in the 1990s. With many people having put down roots in Grow it is starting to look like a community based Mental Institution rather than a place for people to pick up skills and move on with their lives. I think some people need a push out the door to gain their confidence in the real world. I think the Grow method is dated, (60 years old!).They need professional guidance, qualifications, and competence. The program is far too rigid and the Field Workers and BPT seem unable to be creative in their thinking or problem solving. It seems to me that many members go to meetings just to get a pat on the back even though many still have poor relationships at home with their partners and their children. It is false positive reinforcement for poor relationship skills. The organisation is very ignorant in LGBTI matters, especially when it comes to intersex issues. Not a safe place for mental health in this regard. I think it best to stick with your Mental Health professional rather than the current crop of Field workers. Be warned if you are LGBTI - an organisation to avoid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.71.159.111 (talk) 21:52, 15 May 2018 (UTC) This secular organisation is of little use to Christians with a strong faith. How do you deal with the issues of life? - God knows! Based on my experience Grow did more harm than good. Glad I left - I feel much better for leaving!. Grow is like a cult. It uses it's rigid program to control member's thinking and at the end of the meeting they grade you to see if you have 'toed' the company line. And as with any cult they are very friendly so that you will stay and get stuck in it. And if you try to leave you keep getting phone calls long after you have left. Often members use Grow gatherings/ meetings to preach their political views as happened during last year's same sex marriage debate. Their Branch program team, (BPT), reminds me of the parable of the 'lame leading the blind'. Actually I think the BPT must mean, Branch Propaganda team. I am still traumatised by the Grow experience.[reply]