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Pay to Surf?

From the article,

Brave is a free and open-source pay-to-surf[4] web browser...

The claim that Brave is a pay-to-surf browser is based on a 2-year-old article making false claims about how the browser operates. Consider the following quote:

"However, it doesn’t eliminate the ads completely, instead, it replaces the ads with ads from Brave’s own network. If the user agrees to see the replaced ads, he will be paid in bitcoin. Yes, you read that right; you can get paid to surf web!"

This is untrue, and has never been correct. Brave does not replace ads (see the Ad-Replacement section below). Secondly, Brave has never paid users in Bitcoin for viewing ads. I should note also that the source material doesn't contain any citations.

Brave is working on an alternative, opt-in digital advertising model that rewards users for their attention[1]. Brave has also been giving out grants for some time[2] to those who have enabled Brave Payments.

Brave's default behavior is to block ads and trackers. Grants and Rewards are only available to those who opt-in to Brave Payments and/or the forthcoming ads component. It is for these reasons I don't think the pay-to-surf claim should be unqualified and stated as a general fact for all Brave instances.

Underlying engine

Is this based on Gecko, Webkit, or what?  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  22:44, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is based in Chromium see chapter 8 in FAQ 8. Why aren’t you using Mozilla’s Gecko engine on laptops? [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielperezglez (talkcontribs) 14:09, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Lomas, Natasha. "Blockchain browser Brave starts opt-in testing of on-device ad targeting". TechCrunch. Retrieved 15 July 2018.
  2. ^ Shankland, Stephen (17 January 2018). "You can get some Brave crypto tokens free to fund website publishers and YouTube stars". CNET. Retrieved 15 July 2018.
  3. ^ https://www.brave.com/FAQ.html

Move infobox version number to LPR

Anonymous IP-editors cannot create wikipages, so I am requesting one to be created. Please create Template:Latest preview software release/Brave, so that it can be included in Template:Infobox web browser in this article and at Comparison of web browsers.

The wiki markup for the template is as follows:

{{LPR
| article = Brave (web browser)
| latest preview version = 0.12.1
| latest preview date = {{Start date and age|2016|09|15}}
}}
<noinclude>
➔ Back to article "'''[[Brave (web browser)]]'''"

{{Template reference list}}

[[Category:Latest preview software release templates|Brave]]
</noinclude>

80.221.159.67 (talk) 07:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC) (edited: 07:12, 30 September 2016 (UTC))[reply]

Done — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 20:26, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Like previous request, I request Template:Latest stable software release/Brave (web browser) to be created since anonymous IP-editors cannot do so.

You can use this wikimarkup:

{{Multiple releases
 |branch1  = Android
 |version1 = v1.9.56
 |date1    = {{Start date and age|2016|09|12}}<ref name="gh-brave-android-1.9.56">{{Cite web
  |url          = https://github.com/brave/browser-android/releases/tag/v1.9.56
  |title        = v1.9.56
  |last         = Zhukovsky
  |first        = Sergey
  |date         = 2016-09-12
  |website      = brave/browser-android (source code repository)
  |publisher    = GitHub
  |archive-url  = https://web.archive.org/web/20160930234822/https://github.com/brave/browser-android/releases/tag/v1.9.56
  |archive-date = 2016-09-30
  |dead-url     = no
  |access-date  = 2016-09-30
  }}</ref>

 |branch2  = iOS
 |version2 = v1.2.16
 |date2    = {{Start date and age|2016|09|30}}<ref name="gh-brave-ios-1.2.16">{{Cite web
  |url          = https://github.com/brave/browser-ios/releases/tag/1.2.16
  |title        = Brave iOS 1.2.16
  |last         = Keeley
  |first        = Garvan
  |date         = 2016-09-30
  |website      = brave/browser-ios (source code repository)
  |publisher    = GitHub
  |archive-url  = https://web.archive.org/web/20160930234339/https://github.com/brave/browser-ios/releases/tag/1.2.16
  |archive-date = 2016-09-30
  |dead-url     = no
  |access-date  = 2016-09-30
  }}</ref>
}}<noinclude>
➔ Back to article "'''[[Brave (web browser)]]'''"

{{Template reference list}}

[[Category:Latest preview software release templates|Brave]]
</noinclude>

I will do some post-cleanup to Template:Latest preview software release/Brave (web browser). I have no conflict of interest in Brave. 80.221.159.67 (talk) 23:51, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, there is a caveat with Template:Infobox web browser, that requires Template:Latest stable software release/Brave to be created as well (redirect) when using |ver layout=stacked. This is due to |name=Brave in the infobox. 80.221.159.67 (talk) 00:00, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, this is  Already done by User:Andy M. Wang. Marking as answered. 80.221.159.67 (talk) 00:03, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Citation 5 links to article comment, not article

Rather than linking to the article in question, cite 5 currently links to the first comment after the article (a user saying "This model sounds illegal to me, or at the very least immoral"). Based on the text, I suspect the cite URL should be for the article itself, at https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/mozilla-co-founder-unveils-brave-a-web-browser-that-blocks-ads-by-default/ , rather than https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/mozilla-co-founder-unveils-brave-a-web-browser-that-blocks-ads-by-default/?comments=1, as it currently stands. 71.234.116.22 (talk) 21:59, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy?

There's nothing about the Newspaper Association of America (now News Media Alliance) and their opposition to Brave? [1] Formedras (talk) 16:57, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of NPOV

All of the sources linked in this article are from reviews of really early (2016) versions of Brave, and all of them are negative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.187.170.200 (talk) 23:01, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Claims about Ad-Replacement

In a few places, this article states that the Brave Browser replaces ads. This statement is not correct, as even a cursory use of the product would reveal. As its baseline, Brave blocks ads and trackers—I'm happy to provide third-party testimonies to this if necessary. I believe this claim originated from 2016 proposal on the brave.com domain[2]. Brave has never replaced ads on websites. Brave co-founder and CEO Brendan Eich explained on Twitter that ad-replacement would never take place without prior consent[3].

Unreliable Techworld article

The best secure browsers 2018 by Techworld is cited in the critical reception section as signaling an improvement in Brave. But the article does not seem reliable at all. It calls I2P and Freenet "browsers." It calls Yandex a "re-skin" of Chromium, then lists it as one of the "best secure browsers" without including Chromium. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gmarmstrong (talkcontribs) 00:55, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://www.coindesk.com/braves-bitcoin-browser-publisher-backlash/
  2. ^ "About Ad Replacement". brave.com. Retrieved 1 July 2018.
  3. ^ "Brendan Eich on Twitter". twitter.com. Retrieved 1 July 2018.