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Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Cindy-sherman-untitled-153.jpg[edit]

Thank you for uploading File:Cindy-sherman-untitled-153.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator seven days after the file was tagged in accordance with section F7 of the criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:25, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Marchjuly, from what I can see, File:Cindy-sherman-untitled-153.jpg was uploaded by Pmussler on 29 August 2014. Let me know if there's anything else I should do, but I believe you contacted the wrong party...? Cheers, — Andy W. (talk) 03:42, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Scratch that, I see that it's resolved — Andy W. (talk) 04:52, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
I only added the template to your user talk page because it appears from the file's edit history that you were the editor who added the non-free use rationale for the Cindy Sherman article. If that was not the case, then I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:06, 8 May 2017 (UTC)


Andy....I applied for adminship (alas, my request was rejected) because I've been trying to move pages to update animal species taxonomy on a regular basis and didn't want to bother other admins for such mundane tasks. Most pages move without issue, but some if links were created in redirects, they lock and I can't move them. During the RfA, some admins suggested your pageswap tool, which I tried installing after getting approval as a pagemover. The button appears below the move button, but when I plug in the page on where it should be moved to, nothing happens.......I'd like to get this working to stop bothering other admins......please help! The page I am trying to move is Cape pygmy owl to Baja pygmy owl....Pvmoutside (talk) 14:31, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Pvmoutside, thanks for letting me know. I believe you've installed the script fine.
To swap Cape pygmy owl and Baja pygmy owl, you should be able to go to the Cape pygmy owl page directly, click "Swap" (which should be next to the "Move" option), enter "Baja pygmy owl" in the prompt, click OK several times (when it asks about moving talk pages, click OK), and it should just work. (Make sure you then update the moved redirect's target) If the "Swap" button is still not doing anything, I think it may be due to your browser's JavaScript settings...? Do you see any prompts that are popping up when you click "Swap"?
Another thing you can do, if you don't feel comfortable with swaps, you can post at WP:RMT any time, and someone would be able to help you relatively quickly (at least in my experience) Hope this helps — Andy W. (talk) 18:41, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi Pvmoutside, just did some tests... When the first prompt says Swap "Cape pygmy owl" with:, and you type in Baja pygmy owl and click okay, the next prompt takes a few seconds... maybe it depends on your Internet connection, the servers' load I think? I suggest wait 20 seconds. If you still see nothing after that long (really shouldn't take that long), it may be some JavaScript settings in your browser. (It's also a bit of a design issue in my script I suppose) Let me know if you have updates, I'm curious. Thanks — Andy W. (talk) 19:02, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
nope....nothing, even waiting for 20 seconds.....Pvmoutside (talk) 11:29, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi Pvmoutside, thanks for the update... my best guess then is that your browser is blocking subsequent JS prompts. (It works fine for me in Firefox 53.) WP:VPT may have some other ideas? Sorry, wish I was able to help a valuable editor such as yourself to a better extent, but in the meantime, you should be able to manually swap the pages with 3 redirect-suppressed moves, or request at WP:RMT. Hope this isn't too much of a barrier. Feel free to let me know if there's anything else you need — Andy W. (talk) 00:04, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Swapped — Andy W. (talk) 03:36, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Page mover granted[edit]

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Hello, Andy M. Wang. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

Useful links:

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Swarm 03:11, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Implementing MOS:JR change[edit]

Hello. There was a change last year to MOS:JR, eliminating the comma before Jr. and Sr. This affects many article titles. I have been working on and off for months to implement these moves, about half of them requiring a request at WP:RMT. It has been suggested that I request the WP:Page mover right and use your pageswap.js script, eliminating the need to involve admins. Can you describe how to do these moves using your script, for the non-technical user? Thank you. ―Mandruss  12:42, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Mandruss, thanks for letting me know! I think I was able to help you on some of these JR SR moves a while back with swaps. I outlined a general case here, but in other words: click "Swap" (appears next to "Move") and simply follow the prompts:
  • Enter the new page title.
  • In general, click OK when it asks about moving talk pages (and subpages like archives and good article nominations), though I have some tips below
  • At the "Move reason" prompt, enter your intended summary, and you're good to go. (There's a final confirmation before it attempts any action, so don't worry about title typos.)
  • The script doesn't update redirects by design, so after the swap, update any involved to point to the new page title.
FYI about my own swap approach (a bit detailed here): if one page has a talk (or subpage) and the other page doesn't, a swap will "redlink" these pages, which is likely undesirable, especially if they have incoming links. I occasionally move the talk page (or subpage) separately, i.e. swap the mainspace pages, and later do a redirect-preserving move on the talk page (or subpages).
I hope this helps. Please let me know if I should clarify anything! Cheers, — Andy W. (talk) 20:11, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Untitled (Peasant Girl, spinning)[edit]

Hi there,

I'm not familiar with how to communicate on this platform, however you have incorrectly changed the page I wrote for Elihu Vedder's painting "Peasant Girl, spinning". You changed the page name and the name of the work to "Peasant Girl Spinning. The title assigned by the artist and which has always been attributed to this work is "Peasant Girl, spinning". With the comma, and the uncapitalized 's' in "spinning".

Elihu Vedder was meticulous about the naming conventions of his own works. It is correctly listed in the inventory of works he sold in 1867 in The Digression of V (Boston and New York: Houghton Mifflin, 1910). I could go into greater detail why naming conventions are important to Vedder's works of the late 1860s (multiple, precisely and individually titled versions of similar works exist), but that's really not relevant. What you did was introduce erroneous information based on a formatting convention that does not apply to this artist's works.

Please could you stop changing my article. I would like to know what your credibility or authority as an art historian is - but you have changed the article I spent a long time writing. I am sorry this is the only way I know how to reach out - I am trying to learn wikipedia and would like to be able to contribute more content from my research, but just imagine how demoralizing it is when someone changes your article to the wrong information. I have several more articles about individual paintings by Vedder but how can I add them if someone with no authority on the information will simply change them???



— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:585:c101:ef80:dd48:63b5:860e:294a (talk) 03:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Followed up here on the talk page, thanks. I'm taking your post(s) as a move request — Andy W. (talk) 16:04, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
(Just for personal reference, Special:Diff/723289921) — Andy W. (talk) 16:08, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Swap bug?[edit]


I don't know if this is just me being incompetent but the swap tool you made is very useful, however it seems to suppress talk page redirects without prompting me, any ideas?

Thanks, DrStrauss talk 10:06, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi DrStrauss, thanks for letting me know! I wouldn't say this is a bug, more like a feature. I think this is one of your examples? I mitigated this by recreating Talk:Neutral unit of construction (airlines) to fix this issue. After swapping A and B (and a single talk), I need to re-create redirect Talk:A separately, although you could also swap only A and B and afterwards perform a regular move of Talk:A to Talk:B (preserving a redirect).
In a bit more detail, the reason I decided against fixing redlinks is a scenario such as: Swap A, Talk:A, Talk:A/subpageX, B, Talk:B/subpageY. After the swap, the pages are A, Talk:A/subpageY, B, Talk:B, Talk:B/subpageX, with previously existing pages Talk:A, Talk:A/subpageX, and Talk:B/subpageY redlinked. Or should these newly redlinked pages turn into redirects? I personally don't think so, and it seems largely dependent on context, hence my tool has avoided these issues for now.
In short, I'd recommend: Perform the swap. If the other page (and talk, (and subpages if any)) is a redirect, fix its target. Check your own contribs for redlinked talk pages and create them as redirects as necessary. (especially if there are incoming links (Special:WhatLinksHere)) Hope that makes sense! — Andy W. (talk) 19:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Definitely, thank you for the detailed explanation, that makes sense. Best, DrStrauss talk 19:53, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Missing dependency declarations[edit]

Hi, I was looking at User:Andy_M._Wang/pageswap.js and I notice that it does not ensure/declare it's dependency on the resource loader modules mediawiki.util and mediawiki.api, of which it is making use. These modules are loaded on almost every page, so it likely won't cause a problem too often, but you should really fix that because it is good practice, and will make it easier to maintain in the future. Please see: mw:ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#Client-side_.28dynamically.29. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 09:16, 31 July 2017 (UTC)


Hi, the script User:Andy_M._Wang/closeRM.js did not declare/ensure it's dependency on resourceloader module mediawiki.util. I've corrected this. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 09:55, 31 July 2017 (UTC)