Talk:Shaun of the Dead

Wha?

"When the film reaches the 30 minute mark Shaun and Ed finally realize the zombie problem even though Shaun did act alert through most of the movie prior to when they realize he never knows until then." I would fix this sentence up, but I have no idea what the hell it means. - mordemur 09:49, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I think it basically means that Shaun realises about the zombies at the 30 minute point, and he didnt know about it before then even though he seemed alert enough. Retarded sentence though, and saying he was acting alert just isnt true. -- jeffthejiff (talk) 12:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Clearly someone has never had a hangover. Plus i dont want to seem a fool pointing out the obvious but he doesnt recognise the zombies due to their behaviour as zombies being strikingly similar to their pre zombie behaviour. -Flyberius

Actually during the movie, he does notice some strange stuff, like the man trying to eat the pigeons or the woman collapsing, but definitely not enough to think of a zombie outbreak. AllStarZ 01:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Song reference?

What's the song that plays for a few seconds about 8 minutes into the film, when Shaun is riding the bus? The tune caught my attention because it's also in the Scam song that goes along with the game Zombie Smashers X. It's very distinctive. --Nanodeath 23:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Kernkraft 400 by Zombie Nation. Most people think it to be the other way around. --MasTer of Puppets ^{Picture Service} 00:27, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

All right, thanks for the super fast response :-) --Nanodeath 07:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

whoooaaaa thats lot of trivia!!!!

Is that all really necesary?. a humble sugestion here would be to scrap off the useless trivia, as theres jsut too much of it here, is it all really that necesary???, how about writting useable information, as trivia can be found in IMDB's page anyways.

as far as I understand, Wikipedia is supposed to eventually cover nearly everything. Unless I misunderstands this, you should not leave out anything, just because it is written somewhere else on the internet. If so, every article would be mighty short. Lordz 08:30, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

At the same time, however, Wikipedia isn't supposed to be an indiscriminate collection of information. Personally, I don't have a problem with that much trivia (though some of it may need to be cleaned up some), but I can certainly see why some people may not like it. EVula 18:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree, there is way too much trivia here. i had a quick glance at it, and i noticed many useless things like "When Shaun is riding the bus, the youngster in front of him is listening to Zombie Nation". So what? We might as well just put the whole script in. Pegg/Wright are quite referency and in-jokey, but that doesnt mean we have to mention every single one of them. I dont see a list of indiscriminate trivia for Spaced... -- jeffthejiff 22:43, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

well personally the trivia rules. I looked up this page to see if I had spotted all the easter eggs within the film. Turns out I spotted more than are listed. Zombie Nation is continually comming up in the film. The first Instance of it cropping up is in the first Pub scene where it can be heard faintly in the background. I think these should be listed purely because the film makers wanted someone to notice and to be fair this is an article about a RomZomCom, so this is the sort of thing that people are going to be looking for when they search for SoTD. -Flyberius

Theres a lot more trivia listed on IMDB, here. Plus theres plenty of easter egg sites etc that can list endless reams of trivia. As i said before, if we were to list every piece of Spaced trivia for instance, it would be.. well, too long. And this article is already pretty damn long too. Maybe we can write about how and why there are references to horror films etc and link to an appropriate list on an external site, rather than adding them all into here. -- jeffthejiff 16:15, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd say that the goofs section is more useless than the trivia section. It's interesting, but as an encyclopedia do we really need to point out every error the movie makes? That seems more like a job for IMDb to me. FreakmanJ 02:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I removed the goofs section, but someone added it back. Any reason why it should stay, anyone? IMDB is for goofs. If it does stay, everyone one of them needs sourcing. -- jeffthejiff 17:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Rimes

The article states the following:

It is noted on the DVD that the characters names rhyme with their fates at the end of the film:

• Barbara: Cadaver

How exactly does "Barbara" rimes with "Cadaver"? Ritchy 17:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

• • I'd say that's a variation due to British accents... The same could be said for Shaun and "reborn" (see my comment below). Juansmith 21:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• • • No...ENGLISH accents, not BRITISH accents.My friend's from Wales and his accent wouldn't make them rhyme either.(just to note, i'm from Northern Ireland)--Centurion Ry 14:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC) UK born and proud of it.

Comics

Is it worth having a separate entry for the Shaun of the Dead comic outings? There was a one off preview drawn by Frazer Irving (and written by Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright) for 2000AD [1] and then a film adaptation by IDW Publishing [2]. (Emperor 17:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

Also, don't forget the four comic strips on the DVD.Vizjim 09:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Good points (Emperor 14:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC))

There is an entry sketched out for this on the IDW Publishing page - *Shaun of the Dead (Emperor 02:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC))

2 things to add to trivia (?)

ok so ive got 2 new ideas that maybe should be incorporated in this page, if not in the trivia:

• Coldplay members Chris Martin and John Buckland appear in the movie, talking about Zombaid, (maybe making refernece to Liveaid), talking how they got involved.
• Also, a airline-version was made, where the profanity fuck is replaced with funk. It was accually pretty fun to listen to.

so these are my thoughts, tell me wat u think paat 01:34, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Another question I have about trivia. Is this pub where they frequent, "Winchester", the same pub used in another English film "Green Street Hooligans"?

Characters fates rhyming with their names

I assume this was something mentioned jokingly on the DVD... Does it really belong in this article? Besides, notwithstanding any British variations of pronunciation, Shaun could rhyme better with "gone" than "reborn". Juansmith 21:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it's worth mentioning as a point of interest, but nothing particularly important. --Joseph Q Publique 23:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

• It's part of the DVD's Homage-O-Meter, which lists all the references and homages in the film, as well as bits of trivia; so it's not just a throwaway joke from a commentary or anything. Besides, it is applied to every main character - 81.151.186.81 19:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Cast table / Character descriptions

It seemed a bit redundant to have a cast table at one point and then a separate character description list further down the article, so I've taken the liberty of merging the two.--Joseph Q Publique 23:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Good choice. Also, should we remove the repetition in the script/Trivia parts? Or merge them? As they are similar to the cast table and descriptions. Possibly even Horror References. And the plot needs rewriting... I was considering watching the movie with my girlfriend, will get to that later. Mopper ^Speak! 23:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like good ideas all, Mooper. I'll have a look through the summary a bit later too, as I watched it not too long ago and it's still reasonably fresh. Certainly, the 'character fates' section could / should be incorporated more into the plot summary, I feel; as is it doesn't really seem necessary to me when we've got a plot summary it should be incorporated into earlier. I've also chopped down the 'repetition' bit to just a few particularly significant occurrances (the morning routine bit, etc) with a bit more contextual text; it's interesting as an analysis about how the movie is structured, but I don't really think we need to list every single line of dialogue that someone repeats over the course of the movie. I'll have a look at the other things soon, and of course anyone else's input is more than welcome :-) --Joseph Q Publique 07:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I've added a revamped and fairly detailed plot summary, and edited the references and trivia section to cut them down. Any comments or alterations are, of course, entirely welcome. --Joseph Q Publique 11:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Good Article nomination has failed

The Good article nomination for Shaun of the Dead has failed, for the following reason:

No references, far too many gigantic lists. The plot section is also far too large - see The Truman Show for an example on how to divide a large plot section. Morgan695 23:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Righty-ho. With this in mind, and with a devil-may-care laugh in the face of danger, I've restructured the plot section in order to utilize subheadings, as with the example of The Truman Show listed above. For the benefit of those who don't like long plot outlines, I've also added a shorter synopsis (but I still move that we keep the longer plot outline, as The Truman Show example shows that this is not necessarily a bad thing; plus, it's very detailed and informative for the benefit of those who do appreciate longer summaries). I've kept the 'prominent devices' section as it is significant with regard to how the movie is made; rather than those unseemly lists, however, I've limited myself to a handful of significant examples and paragraph-ized the lists in order to make it more presentable (especially as the 'references' section was pretty much in paragraph format anyway, and the dot-points were by and large redundant). With the lists, there's just too much temptation to keep adding stuff, and that just gets long and unwieldy. I've also chopped away the brief character descriptions, as those are (or should be) more appropriately raised in the synopsis / plot outline section. Any comments / discussion are, as always, welcome and appreciated.--Joseph Q Publique 13:34, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I recommend deleting the entire Plot section. The synopsis is sufficient. Tempshill 05:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

speed =/= amphetamines

oh noes

Removal of synopsis

I've just reinstated the synopsis and its associated spoiler tag after its recent removal. Personally I think it enhances to the article, especially for anyone who doesn't want to wade through the fairly in-depth description of the plot. Before making major changes to the article such as removing the synopsis can we discuss it here first...?

-- Chris (blather • contribs) 09:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I personally reckon we should keep the two (and I'm not saying that just 'cos I wrote them both! :-)). Judging by the The Truman Show article (which I based my recent work on this page on) and other movie pages on this site that I've come across it seems to be the norm to have both the brief synopsis and the more detailed plot outline for movies; and besides, it's a reasonable compromise between those who only want a brief summary and those who want a detailed plot outline, since there was plenty of discussion / argument about this sort of thing on other pages (including this one - see above). Nevertheless, I can understand why people might think that having two summaries is redundant and, should the majority deem it so, am quite happy for it to be removed. But I do think we should discuss it first.--Joseph Q Publique 01:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Shaun's awful aiming

I could swear that at some point this article pointed out that Shaun's comically awful shotgun skillz were inspired by the main character in Silent Hill. I didn't just imagine this, did I? Chris Cunningham 08:53, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

As far as I remember, the main character in Silent Hill, being the mother, doesn't shoot the gun once, as the policewoman has the gun with her (and she uses it well, as i recall), until she leaves the mother to go down the elevator. At this point we find out that the gun is empty. BTW, didnt silent hill come out after Shaun of the Dead? paat 01:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Slashes

Is it just me, or does this article make all-too-liberal use of slashes? It's really quite an informal shorthand, so I don't think it has much place in an encyclopedia article. — TheJames 12:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Great and Informative, Why not a Good?

I think this article is amazingly informative and shows what Wikipedia is all about. We should put this back on nomination for Good Article. Any real objections? 24.218.130.246 23:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Resident Evil Referance?

Aroud the end, when the troops arrive, on the trucks, there was a logo of Biohazard. This is what RE is called in Japan. Should this be added in Trivia? --ASDFGHJKL 03:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Budget information

We should probably specify what currency the 4,000,000 budget is listed under; if it's USD, it makes the opening weekend gross all the more significant, doesn't it? FreakmanJ 02:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)