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Your submission at Articles for creation: The Hitman Blues Band (July 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Lacks independent verifiable sources need to establish whether it satisfies WP:NMUSICIAN. It is likely that if proof is provided establishing the band's Grammy nominations and international touring then that should be sufficient to satisfy the notability requirements. I would suggest that you look at re-formatting the article so it meets the same layout/standards as other musical acts.

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Dan arndt (talk) 04:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Savearainbow! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Dan arndt (talk) 04:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

September 2018 Reply

The fundamental problem with your draft is that it lacks any reliable secondary references or sources that verify the statements made in the article. It is highly likely based on the information that it satisfies WP: NMUSICIAN, however you need inline citations which confirm that the band was nominated for a Grammy, that they went on international tours, that they released albums on notable labels etc. if you provide those I’d be happy to reassess the draft. Dan arndt (talk) 00:50, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have just finished searching for reliable published references confirming that they received Grammy nominations in 2009 and 2016 but I cant find anything... which is a bit concerning. I have checked the Grammy website, press releases from that time and the Wikipedia articles. Can you see if you can find what categories they were nominated in/for., as that would greatly assist. In the meantime I'll keep looking. Dan arndt (talk) 05:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What I have uncovered from the research I've done is that they never received a Grammy nomination rather according to Russell 'Hitman' Alexander they almost were nominated for a Grammy. Unfortunately almost is not good enough and the only source seems to be from the band themselves. There are no collaborating published sources that support this only Alexander's comments, which is essentially a primary source and not acceptable. The albums that the band released were all on Alexander's own label, Nerus Records, which is not a notable or mainstream record label. Also it doesn't appear that any of the albums charted anywhere or that there are any mainstream published reviews of the albums (blogsites etc don't count). The best I can rely on is evidence of the tours of the UK but I need published secondary sources that specifically mention/review those performances. Once again I'll keep trying. Dan arndt (talk) 09:12, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I appreciate the swift response. I said (numerous times) they didn't get Grammy nominations - they were in the running. They have the official Grammy ballots to prove it, but you can't look that up online. So I removed any reference to it from the article.

There are numerous reviews of the albums online. I will update it to show that. They also charted on a some recognized sites, so I will reference those as well. I will also add links to online journals that aren't blogs with reviews of the albums and live performances.

Please check back in a couple of days, as it will take a little bit to put it together! Thanks for your help.

Savearainbow (talk) 00:38, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]