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What Sort of Source Is Needed?

Hello, I made some edits to the entry for Bill Mauk, link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Mauk however, you removed some of the information I put in: (cur | prev) 23:36, 18 January 2018‎ C.Fred (talk | contribs)‎ . . (2,603 bytes) (-55)‎ . . (can't find source for middle name or dob; can find first name and middle initial in several places) (undo | thank) I have been Bill's assistant for 5 years now, the information I entered comes from personal knowledge, but I would be happy to try to provide you with whatever you need as source material. I added Bill's full name - William Lloyd Mauk, and I added some information about his being an attorney responsible for the exoneration of Donald Paradis, for which I provided a source ^[1]. I am a new user as far as editing, and communicating with anyone in the wiki community go, so please forgive my ignorance, and inability. But, I am quite interested in learning. Thank you. V.Jensen (talk) 21:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)V.Jensen[reply]

References

^ https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=3522

@V.Jensen: One big problem is that personal knowledge is not a reliable source. Wikipedia prefers information that has been published, so that other editors and readers can readily verify it. Given the choice, we also prefer an independent source like a newspaper story or journal article over a self-published source like the subject's website or press release.

Further, because you are employed by Mauk, you have a conflict of interest. While this doesn't prohibit you from editing his article, you do need to be very careful to make sure your edits maintain neutral point of view and are properly sourced. —C.Fred (talk) 21:47, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@C.Fred thank you, I will no longer be employed by Mr. Mauk very soon, and I am not paid to make such edits or updates, however I do understand the point you're making. Verifiable sources which are independent are desired. I will look into that and try again. I appreciate your guidance and thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.129.134.98 (talk) 22:18, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dundee Crown High School

About the removal of Chaz Ortiz as a Notable Alumni: I have found a few sources mentioning him going to Dundee Crown. As I do not know enough to add them as citations and what not, let me just show you the web sites. http://www.espn.com/highschool/rise/news/story?id=4159164 https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150618/sports/150618877/ http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-08-07/news/0908050420_1_playstation-pro-dew-tour-free-flow-tour

Please add him back as before, with references as what-not. Thank you!2601:240:4400:747E:FC57:A09:1324:9BAD (talk) 05:41, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Boise State—Idaho rivalry

Well, the rivalry hasn't "ceased to exist" as you pointed out using my comments when I made the original edit. It's definitely not a FBS rivalry anymore due to Idaho's move to FCS. Unless something has changed with how rivalries are listed, especially in the FBS section, there aren't any FCS teams listed there. That's my two cents on the matter.

112.173.55.133 (talk) 23:42, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Dotard" entry

A few months ago, I included an entry to this word in the List of disability-related terms with negative connotations list, and I have included a source to back this up. Maybe we can redirect this entry to the linked article? Just an idea. It's just that nobody's taken me up on this idea, is all. Johnnysama (talk) 04:20, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

new

Fred,

I don't think censorship is good, so I hope you think the same way. I did not edit war. T*U did. Please review carefully my comments on the article's talk page. Noramiao (talk) 14:31, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Noramiao: Wikipedia pillars trump style. The issue is that the updated prices couldn't be verified against a reliable source. That's why Velella reverted the article, to go back to a version based on reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 15:44, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Noramiao: Why should a table of electricity prices in Europe be denominated in USD? If you really think the change is needed, you need to discuss that at the article's talk page—and after your bold change is reverted, you don't try to force through a change until there is a new consensus. —C.Fred (talk) 16:15, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Noramiao: The article does not say that. The global comparison table is in US dollars; the Eurostat tables are in Euros. —C.Fred (talk) 16:31, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Noramiao: How does the article benefit if the prose is in cents and the table is in dollars? That's inviting some order-of-magnitude errors. —C.Fred (talk) 17:26, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please start intending your replies. It's hard to follow the thread when you don't. —C.Fred (talk) 17:26, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppetry?

I assume you're offline at the moment and so haven't seen recent edits at you've looked at List of countries and dependencies by population. Since your last edit at User talk:Noramiao I've opened a report at WP:AN3 as a result of Noramiao's edit warring and a new account has appeared. Allylyric has, as of now, made 4 edits, 2 of which have been to revert to Noramiao's version, which looks incredibly suspicious for a new editor. I believe the third edit, to Electricity pricing, looks to be diversionary. The fourth, to Allylyric's talk page , looks written in Noramiao's style. --AussieLegend (✉) 16:49, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AussieLegend: I just got online; I was catching up on this morning's activities and had just jumped back in. List of countries and dependencies by population is protected, and I believe your suspicions about Allylyric are correct. —C.Fred (talk) 16:52, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For a new editor, Allylyric seems unusually familiar with Wikipedia terminology, for example being aware that CheckUser exists and even abbreviating it to "CU". Perhaps we're looking at two socks here? --AussieLegend (✉) 17:08, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AussieLegend: I definitely smell socks here, whether Noramiao is the master or a puppet. —C.Fred (talk) 17:31, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Electricity pricing is not a diversion - just have a glance at the recent history! Velella ^{Velella Talk} 17:48, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Velella: I meant that Allylyric's reversion of your edit was a diversion to hide the sockpuppetry but I see now that it was actually a reversion to Noramiao's last edit. I didn't realise he had been disrupting that article too. --AussieLegend (✉) 18:21, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingly, I opened Wikipedia today to find that I had 31 notifications. This was the range of edits to my talk page - No new content, just multiple unnecessary edits, and he's done a similar thing at User talk:Thegoodguy3221.[1] I'm sure I've seen this type of thing elsewhere. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:39, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Curiously Thegoodguy3221 will find 66 messages - all for silly one-letter changes to a message from Noramiao. This can only be done just to childishly annoy. Methinks this editor is not here to improve this encyclopaedia. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 16:04, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AussieLegend and Velella: Noramiao kept up at User talk:Thegoodguy3221 today, after I warned them specifically about it. They'll be leaving every talk page but their own alone for the next 31 hours... —C.Fred (talk) 17:57, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wow !!! You people are witch hunters. Shame on you for what you are doing. Shame. You should be embarrassed of yourselves if you have any dignity and decency.

What a shame !!! You seriously think an adult would do such thing? I'm talking about for what I'm unfairly accused of and for what you are doing. This is not a question, so don't bother answering.

Shame on you !!! Noramiao (talk) 19:44, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding IP users making legal threat on Talk:Subway Challenge

Hi C.Fred. Regarding your removal of this legal threat on Talk:Subway Challenge, from the IP user 194.176.105.133 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), I think it's the same person who made legal threats in the past. These IPs from the same range also made threats two years ago:

194.176.105.132 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), November 2, 2016
194.176.105.139 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), February 17, 2016
194.176.105.142 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), August 30, 2016

This looks like a long term abuser from a relatively narrow IP range. Should they be rangeblocked? epicgenius (talk) 21:41, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: If it's fleeting messages here and there, I don't think the cost of a block at a site like that is worth the benefit. —C.Fred (talk) 21:43, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And see 2A02:C7D:7877:5100:8003:B4B:372D:39C6 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). —C.Fred (talk) 21:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict × 2) I was trying to point that edit out. Seems like the page should be protected instead. epicgenius (talk) 21:47, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SaberCats Logo Edit

Hey, I'm a representative of the Houston SaberCats, The current logo on the page is incorrect, and doesn't reflect our branding. I uploaded a new (correct) logo, but you undid the change. Can I ask why? -Denny, 9/5/18 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thynecoffee (talk • contribs) 21:56, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Thynecoffee: The logo was tagged as your own work. Unless you are the artist and have the rights to give the image away for other people to use, free of charge, the license is invalid. —C.Fred (talk) 23:33, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Creation of Victor Mochere

I am proposing for the creation of the page "Victor Mochere".— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2C0F:FE38:2020:C0E9:F9BD:3003:17E8:5526 (talk) 10:14, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

With no indication of why he's notable, there's nothing I can do to help this proceed. —C.Fred (talk) 12:08, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He is a Kenyan YouTuber, Author, a notable blogger and social media personality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2C0F:FE38:2020:C0E9:F9BD:3003:17E8:5526 (talk) 2C0F:FE38:2020:C0E9:F9BD:3003:17E8:5526

Then either start Draft:Victor Mochere yourself, or post at WP:Articles for creation. However, make sure he passes WP:Notability and/or WP:BIO. —C.Fred (talk) 12:16, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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