Talk:Rawiri Paratene

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"the English form of his name"

In what sense is "Peter David Broughton" the "English form" of "Rawiri Paratene"? He may have chosen an English name, or had one imposed on him (as often happened in religious schools), alongside his Māori one. However, "the English form of his name" seems to suggests a literal translation of the original Māori meaning - but how would two Māori names translate into three quite separate English names, and how could "Broughton" (which itself has no intrinsic meaning) ever be a translation of anything? Nor does the English name sound anything like the original Māori. Could this perhaps be made clearer?

I compare this with the English forms of native Irish names, such as "Michael Daniel Higgins" (the current President of Ireland), an almost direct English rendering of the original Irish "Mícheál Dónal Ó hUiginn" ("Higgins" could also have appeared as "O'Higgins" - the Irish particle "Ó" simply means "descendant of", and is often omitted in English versions of Irish names).89.212.50.177 (talk) 12:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]