Talk:Web colors

Decimal RGB definition

In CSS, colours can also be defined as rgb(decimal,decimal,decimal). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.234.43 (talk) 12:49, 25 September 2005‎ (UTC)

Burlywood or BurlyWood?

I like the design of the colour table grouping them by (is it) hue? I note that the obvious source material is SVG 1.1 Version of X11 Color names but that uses all lower case names whereas this table uses "upper camel case" however I think an error was made with Burlywood (and I subsequently noted Firebrick also) is one word. As this seems to be an included file and the page is also subject to some restrictions I'm not sure I can edit the table myself. SlySven (talk) 16:38, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

The current official standard is CSS Color Module Level 3 which was approved as a W3C Recommendation on 7 June 2011. In that, section 4.1. Basic color keywords lists sixteen colours in lowercase, and explicitly states "the color names are case-insensitive." It is unclear whether this case-insensitivity also applies to the colours named in section 4.3. Extended color keywords, which also has all of the colour names in lowercase. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:50, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

I noticed this and checked. "burlywood" and "firebrick" are single words in the X11 colour name database. They are not two word phrases, so using BurlyWood and FireBrick is not correct. The original X11 RGB database can be found in /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt on an Ubuntu Linux system. In that database, single word colour names (like "red" or "burlywood") are written in lower case. Two word colour names (like "sandy brown", "SandyBrown") are given two entries, one using lower case with a space, and one using CamelCase without a space. The X11_color_names article gets this correct, but the table in this Web colors article is incorrect. I can't figure out how to edit the table and fix the bug.

Bronze color frquently used in sport pages

It's possible to chanche the result of color "bgcolor=bronze" in "bgcolor=cc9966", like this example?

Year	Competition	Venue	Position	Event	Measure	Notes
2015	European Junior Championships	Eskilstuna	3rd	Long jump	7.74 m
2015	European Junior Championships	Eskilstuna	3rd	Long jump	7.74 m

--Kasper2006 (talk) 06:35, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Kasper2006: What do you mean? To change the way that the keyword bronze is interpreted? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:16, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Listen, look when I use the name of the medal in the code (first line):

Gold (bgcolor=gold)

Year	Competition	Venue	Position	Event	Measure	Notes
2015	European Junior Championships	Eskilstuna	1st	Long jump	7.74 m	Y correct
2015	European Junior Championships	Eskilstuna	1st	Long jump	7.74 m	Y correct

Silver (bgcolor=silver)

Year	Competition	Venue	Position	Event	Measure	Notes
2015	European Junior Championships	Eskilstuna	2nd	Long jump	7.74 m	Y correct
2015	European Junior Championships	Eskilstuna	2nd	Long jump	7.74 m	Y correct

Bronze (bgcolor=bronze)

Year	Competition	Venue	Position	Event	Measure	Notes
2015	European Junior Championships	Eskilstuna	3rd	Long jump	7.74 m	N wrong
2015	European Junior Championships	Eskilstuna	3rd	Long jump	7.74 m	Y correct

Now unserstand what I mean? Wy only bronze code don't returns bronze color, but... I don't know what kind of color is. and we MUST to use code "cc9966" fore return bronze?--Kasper2006 (talk) 05:39, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

As I suspected, you wish to change the way that the word bronze is interpreted as a colour. The conversion of color names to color values is done by the web browser, not by any MediaWiki process.

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), which mostly comprises the browser vendors (Apple, Microsoft, Mozilla and so on), have agreed on a set of color names, and the values to which they should be mapped by browsers. These are listed at CSS Color Module Level 3 section 4.3. Extended color keywords and which our article web colors describes. If you attempt to use a name that is not in the list (such as bronze), and therefore for which there is no defined mapping, different browsers will interpret it in various ways. Some will ignore it, and not set a colour at all; some will treat it as black, others as white. Some (like Opera) will try to interpret the name as a hexadecimal (hex) value: valid hex values comprise the digits 0-9 and the letters a-f, and in the word "bronze", the first and last letters are valid hex values, but the middle four are not and so are treated as zero. So bronze becomes b0000e and so in the Opera browser, you get this colour:  .

We simply cannot change these interpretations in any way at all. That is up to the browser vendors and the W3C. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:51, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

My personal opinion is that it would be a good idea if the W3C added "bronze" to the list, to be consistent with the existing "silver" and "gold". However, as already stated, it's up to the W3C. — Korax1214 (talk) 14:26, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

The Wikia link in §X11 color names

I tried to add this to their "Help:Color" article, only for this to be reverted (twice) partly on the grounds of "self-promotion". To my mind this fails the use/mention distinction: although the article was written by me, it wasn't about me or mine; it was solely about the X11 colour list. If I were to write an article (solely) about Fermat's Last Theorem (not mentioning anything else whatsoever) and link to it on a mathematics article, would that link be "self-promotion"? it would according to the above-described Wikia "logic".

Hence I have posted it here instead, in the hope that it may be of use to somebody, even though it's not about the latest movie or whatever and thus no use to Wikia. — Korax1214 (talk) 14:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Due to the above problem (I wouldn't be surprised if the page were deleted), I have copied it here (in my user space because I'm not sure it meets WP:NOTABLE); I hope this is allowed under WP policies. — Korax1214 (talk) 15:38, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

I removed it again, see WP:ELNO#EL1; WP:ELNO#EL5; WP:ELNO#EL11; and WP:ELNO#EL12. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:18, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

EL5 in the above is invalid; the page is not selling anything, or promoting anything other than the efficient use of the X11 colour list. As for the others, the wording is "should not", not "must not"; it's a guideline, not a rule. The ultimate criterion should be that rare facility ironically named "common sense".

I for one find the article as it stands virtually useless as a colour picker, as it lacks important information (hue, saturation and gamma), and what there is has been divided into several lists instead of a unified list (and this has been done in a somewhat arbitrary manner; at least two of the "browns" are actually reds, strangely including "brown" itself; the rest of the browns could instead have been included with the oranges as brown is in effect dark orange, and "gold", although indeed a yellow, could also fit into the oranges as it's the colour also known as "gamboge"). — 90.217.74.237 (talk) 08:23, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Blue gray

In English, so I can understand , please how many parts by parts do I need to make the colors blue gray. I have no idea what you are talking about. You have lost my. So if I can understand please how to make the right information to make it . Thank you please !!! Corsairf4u1 (talk) 08:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

I build model aircraft and I've been told that colors are different blue gray is actually gray blue or gray blue is actually blue gray I've seen photos that goes both ways some are grayish blue and some are bluish Gray and I just want to figure out how can I make just blue gray because some companies don't have that color and they don't know how to mix it or even know how what and when so can you please just please tell me the ratio to get that color by parts from 0 to 10 so I would know thank you very much for listening to me and I thank you from Ralph Corsairf4u1 (talk) 09:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@Corsairf4u1: This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Web colors. I rather think you would be better off posting a question at the reference desk. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC)