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Notability

I added the notability flag only to have it removed by Jcc. The previous AfD closed as no consensus meaning notability is not established. Nothing significant has been added since the AfD therefore the flag was valid. Ajf773 (talk) 00:52, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What it means is that your ongoing campaign to eradicate London bus route articles by flagging them as not notable and then deleting them a couple of months later won't work in this case, the previous consensus not to delete will override. Morteinmeil (talk) 03:28, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The articles aren't being eradicated as the history is still intact. They are being redirected due to lack of established notability, which in this case has not been affirmed in the previous AfD as it closed without consensus. Ajf773 (talk) 06:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeni and Morteinmeil: Further to what Morteinmeil said above, the AfD found that there was no consensus regarding this article's notability. Hence there is no consensus to add a notability tag to the top, which has been further demonstrated by two editors (myself and Morteinmeil) protesting its addition. If a notability tag is contested, it should go to Articles for deletion, not edit warred back in (per the instructions at Template:Notability). Please don't edit war to add it back in when there is no consensus to do so, demonstrated both here and at the AFD discussion. jcc (tea and biscuits) 10:57, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That is not correct. The no consensus outcome means notability has not been established and tagging is permitted. Otherwise the article would be kept without a tag or deleted.Charles (talk) 11:16, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Charlesdrakew: Ridiculous. Re-read WP:STATUSQUO. The article was without the notability tag, two users have contested it. The article should be kept in its status quo, i.e. without a notability tag. jcc (tea and biscuits) 11:20, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@FeydHuxtable, Andrew Davidson, and Class455: Pinging all the other people who discussed the notability at AfD since we seem to be relitigating the AfD discussion. jcc (tea and biscuits) 11:22, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:STATUSQUO applies to disputed article content. I see no reason to think it applies to maintenance tags. I still believe the tag permitted under wider policy and not requiring local consensus here.Charles (talk) 11:53, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Jcc:. The article at it stands has no evidence of notability so the tag is completely acceptable. If you think the tag should be removed, then fix the article by making it notable. Ajf773 (talk) 17:39, 2 December 2018 (UTC)7[reply]
@Ajf773: That's just your opinion, contradicted by the AfD. Three editors now have contested the need for the tag, thus there is no consensus to have a tag. A tag was not previously present on the article, so we should revert to the status quo of not having one. jcc (tea and biscuits) 18:21, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is no consensus for the tag and so it should go as our readership is not interested in such clutter and the interested editors are well aware of the issue. Per WP:TMC, "Cleanup tags are meant to be temporary notices that lead to an effort to fix the problem, not a permanent badge of shame to show that you disagree with the article..." Andrew D. (talk) 15:08, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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