User talk:Caelanmac

Speedy deletion nomination of Mike Rayburn

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A tag has been placed on Mike Rayburn, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 04:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

COI

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Your refs were mainly not independent third-party sources.
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Once you have clarified any COI, I'm prepared in principle to restore as a draft, but you should be aware that unless you meet the notability criteria above, it will never get off the ground Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:51, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Thanks for the feedback. I did collect a number of third-party sources, and one of them was IMDB, I was unaware that was not accepted. There were a number of references from other reputable publications, and the primary reason I would like the page restored is because I did not save those links elsewhere, and I would like to review what I have written.

The subject of this article is my client, and I will make note of this appropriately. (I'd like to take more time to review the COI requirements before describing exactly how I will do that.) I primarily work on his website, and I wanted to try my hand at a Wikipedia article. I am new at this, and learning, and I am happy to meet the requirements as they are laid out. If I can eventually produce an article that meets the notability requirements, and sufficiently discloses COI, it would be great to publish it here.

If not, at the very least I would like to review the draft that I have written. If you could please restore it, I would be most appreciative. Caelanmac (talk) 06:35, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Response 2

Jimfbleak thanks for the helpful guidance on your talk page. I have updated my own profile page with a disclosure of my COI, as requested.

After you restore the draft for the Mike Rayburn page, I will add the following disclosure, as you recommend:

The following Wikipedia contributor has declared a personal or professional connection to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view.

Caelanmac (talk · contribs) This user has contributed to the article. This user has declared a connection. (COI declared on user page)

I also understand that if the edited page does not sufficiently meet the notability requirements, the page will not be published. However, I would still appreciate the restoration of the page, so I can retrieve the content I produced there. Caelanmac (talk) 02:14, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored at Draft:Mike Rayburn, I've made these edits, killing the various tags, removing obvious spam and links to his pages. You don't need refs for the discography. That doesn't mean the rest are OK, his own Allmusic page isn't ideal for Carnegie Hall Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:47, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

After reading the Wikipedia guidelines closely, I've published another version of the page. Caelanmac (talk) 03:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]