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Edit warring and responses to others.

I tried to help improve your changes on Egan Bernal and you refuse to accept any of it, and instead you just undo everything done by others that is not in your favor. Putting that he was born in Bogota, Colombia is standard and makes perfect sense, as there are people unaware that Bogota is there. But, you refuse to listen to the number of people who explain this to you. I also saw your responses to warnings about this same thing from others on your talk page, and you clearly have taken nothing from these. This is very immature and rude. You need to learn to take helpful criticism and listen to others. You also need to stop removing large sections from articles, like you did on Giro d'Italia without asking anyone else first. I'm not going to war with you over this, as I see you will never accept change to what you write. It is also completely unnecessary to say "That is a grossly ugly picture...". This just makes you sound overly temperamental and immature. I will notify an administrator if this continues. Seacactus 13 (talk) 20:42, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying that the article specific to the Giro should have a lengthy explanation of the types of stage that can be in a race?
Do you consider that picture to be better than either of those it replaced?
Are you aware that of the most recent 10 biog articles in your contributions history that detail place of birth outside the infobox, only one specifies the country?
Do you believe that unclear and poorly written sentences improve Wikipedia? Kevin McE (talk) 23:47, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
About the picture of Egan Bernal in the yellow jersey from 2019. You replaced it twice by reason it's an ugly photo. That's a personal taste. The picture in the biography box is one of Bernal in action, no problem with it, but it isn't sharp and his face is hidden after the sunglasses. When I placed it in the chapter about 2019, I switched it with the picture of Paris-Nice. That's a very ugly photo for me. It is not sharp and there is a lot of sunlight that disturbs the picture. So I can not find this Paris-Nice picture better than the one I placed. But it's al in a taste, I presume? Odiel Defraeye (talk) 07:07, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The picture you want to put up is, in my opinion, an ugly explosion of yellows, with very poor definition of a tiny image of his face. I agree the Paris-Nice pic isn't great, and yes, it is a matter of taste. That doesn't mean that you get to impose your taste: you were bold, it got reverted, now take it to talk. There are much better photos at other wikis. Kevin McE (talk) 09:49, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

August 2019

Hi Kevin

I have reverted your edit on Next United Kingdom general election here, as I felt there was significant evidence in your edit summary (No additional comment in RfC for more than a week. Narrow, but more in favour of No Infobox than any other option offered.) to show that your idea of consensus is based on voting. While I do not have an opinion on whether an infobox should be used or whatever, the RfC only shows there is no consensus, as no agreement has be found. To explain the term !vote, which I used in my edit summary, it's said as "not-vote", and means a statement of opinion (e.g. in an RfC) that is not part of an poll where the majority wins.

In case you didn't know, I requested succesfully that page be protected last month here. I will again request full protection or any other means necessary to preserve the stability of the article, if the edit war restarts.

Thank you --TedEdwards 11:47, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

and what steps did you take to evaluate the arguments made in the RfC? Or are you simply using status quo to enforce your own preference? Kevin McE (talk) 12:06, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What steps did I take to evaluate the arguments made in the RfC? Well, I read them, and noted, while there were some fairly poor arguments, there was no consensus. Which is more than can be said for you, who just counted the number of arguments for each option. And am I simply using status quo to enforce your own preference? Well, I thought I made that clear when I said I do not have an opinion, but if that's not enough, please note I have not partaked in any discussions on the subject, and therefore have never expressed an opinion. If I did have an opinion, I would state it on the talk page and argue for it. --TedEdwards 18:18, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The capital of Colombia is Bogota

Well.... First of all it's a relevant fact, 2nd of all it informs casual enthusiasts who have no knowledge of Colombia what the capital of Colombia is, so by the very act of looking up this guy who they heard won the Tour de France they now have also learned what the capital city of Colombia is.... It's how wikipedia works.... It teaches you things you didn't expect to know while simultaneously giving you the exact information you were looking for.... Furthermore when someone like seacactus takes the time to write 2,500 characters of relevant information instead of just deleting all of it because it doesn't fit in with what your opinion of the article should be maybe you could have the damn consideration to edit it down a little, or reword some of it, or possibly delete some of it and leave some of it not just decide hey.... I decide what's important and I'm erasing everything.... you know maybe being polite and helpful by taking 20-30 minutes to edit the edit of another contributor is how articles get better Raleigh80Z90Faema69 (talk) 02:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, this is exactly how I feel and what I have been trying to tell him. He refuses to compromise with me and just reverts my edits to versions of his liking. It is really frustrating, especially since I wrote a majority of the article, and he just comes in and acts like he owns it. Seacactus 13 (talk) 16:02, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Marr - Show BBC One

Hello, I see that you have edited the Andrew Marr item. I wonder if you can tell me what has become of Marr and/or his Show since 21 July 2019, please ? I have watched various Brexit-related "Clips", my not being in the UK. I found his interviews interesting. (I reckon many of those wiki-rules about editing are tedious, so cannot be bothered trying much.) Thanks for considering. Cheerio. 121.45.200.84 (talk) 02:06, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Facts over moral judgements

It's a fact that the Team Sunweb members were hit by a motorist driving a car. That's not a moral judgment. Cars don't drive themselves (not yet anyway); they are driven by humans. You don't say that a bat hit a home run; you say a player hit a home run. The player used a bat but without the player, the bat doesn't do anything. It's the same situation with car crashes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattmeskill (talk • contribs) 02:58, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Colchester population

When writing about UK towns, the urban/built-up area population figure is used as a general rule, and so has it been the case for years in the Colchester article up until your edit earlier this year. I believe a consensus among the editors is necessary to warrant such a change. Any populated area within a town can petition for a creation of a parish/community council, and to me it does not appear reasonable to exclude its residents from the town population figure for that reason. --Glossologist (talk) 02:57, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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