Talk:List of lighthouses in Ireland

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Merge Lightvessels in the Republic of Ireland to this article

I am proposing this because Lightvessels in the Republic of Ireland was created in November 2002 as a list with one entry, and still is a list with one entry. I might add that the one entry in that list is for a lightship that went out of service in 1896, which makes placing that article in a list of Lightvessels in the Republic of Ireland anachronistic. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 14:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree: While you are correct that this page was made nearly 4 years ago there are many more lightvessels that could be added from this page. If anything, I think the page should at least be renamed as Lightvessels in Ireland to comply with the authority of the Commissioners of Irish Lights who cover the whole of Ireland for navigational aids. Alternatively, we could rename it Navigational aids in Ireland and then add the buoys and other aids the CIL is in charge of because Lighthouses in Ireland is already quite long and does not really need to be diluted with topics that do not comply with the page title. For myself I have been busy with other things so have not even addressed the red inked lighthouses much less the other navigational aids but if you have the enthusiasm and ability I will be happy to give it some input but not as a merge. ww2censor 16:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If there are a number of other lightvessels to add to the list, then that takes care of one objection I had. Moving the list to Lightvessels in Ireland would then take care of my other objection. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 02:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree: (disagree with Dalbury; agree with Ww2censor). Distinct topics should form distinct articles. Yes, it needs more work, but keep it and expand it, don't bury it! Snalwibma 20:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note that other lists do combine lighthouses and lightvessels. See List of lighthouses and lightvessels, Lighthouses and lightvessels in Australia, Lighthouses and lightvessels in Belgium, Lighthouses and lightvessels in Denmark, Lighthouses and lightvessels in Germany, Lighthouses and lightvessels in the Netherlands and Lighthouses and lightvessels in Sweden. I know that some of the light stations I have written articles for have had an alternation of lighthouses and lightships on (more or less) the same station. There is nothing inherently wrong with listing lighthouses and lightvessels in the same list. We should avoid lists that are very short, and the question of whether or not to combine lighthouses and lightvessels in a list should depend on how long or short the list(s) will be. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 02:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Donald, you are correct about some combined articles but all those you list above are considerably shorter than Lighthouses in Ireland which, IMHO, is already rather long, hence my objection to combining lightvessels with lighthouses. I can only see it having to be divided later on, so why give ourselves more work. Lightvessels would include lightships and I would suggest also buoys, and as I have pointed out there is plenty more information on the Commissioners of Irish Lights website. ww2censor 02:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It has been more than a month and no one else seems to agree with this suggestion, so I will remove the merge tags and try to expand the Lightvessels in the Republic of Ireland page but will rename it Lightvessels in Ireland as appropriate to the jurisdiction of the Commissioners of Irish Lights. Cheers ww2censor 03:32, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Maidens

Could someone write an article about the maidens lighthouses