Talk:List of My Hero Academia characters
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the ref to the casts
On this edit, I think I ran out of space? So, when you access my hero at funimation it only shows the videos to the episodes, but doesn't bring up the casts. Like in Hakata Tonkotsu Ramens and it shows about 20 characters or 30. At "cast and crew." Then when I copied the link/ url to the web archive. It will sort of try to list who are the casts out of like 50 characters or more. But the loading speed is slow. Or the capture info is showing blank info at certain dates, one date was "February 25, 2018 at 23:03:37". But tomorrow I'll look at it more. Tainted-wingsz (talk) 04:22, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- I tried to look through the web archive to the nearest date where it has "cast and crew." And the loading speed is just so slow. Then after a number of characters in the who's who, at the bottom it has displaying 1-10, etc, as you press the next number displaying the next set of characters. It won't let me and brings me to a loading screen for the longest time. (It will try to load for about an hour and then displays characters 11-20, etc.) Tainted-wingsz (talk) 16:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Should we start giving some of these characters their own pages?
Obviously not all of them, but My Hero Academia is definitely a triple A franchise at this point. It’s about as well-known as the likes of Dragon Ball and Naruto now. Should we start off with giving Deku and All Might pages? 2600:8802:6604:3FC4:39BD:EBB7:F703:DC89 (talk) 17:30, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Character descriptions
I asked an admin Xezbeth, if Drmies removed too much by removing the subsections, and he answered yes. Without the character descriptions, this page is completely incomprehensible. And not, this series is not a fanfiction, and thus is not subject to WP:FANCRUFT, and is not original research, and thus is not subject to WP:SYNTHESIS or WP:OR. 99.203.40.43 (talk) 22:28, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Ahem. Xezbeth didn't exactly say that. If anyone is interested in what they really said, and my response, it's right here. Moreover, the IP is simply wrong--a list of characters doesn't necessarily need such crazy-long descriptions. At some point this list was over 100k, with most of the references from ANN and the others from Twitter: typical for fancruft. As for that, "this series is not a fanfiction, and thus is not subject to FANCRUFT" is a completely invalid argument: FANCRUFT is in no way limited to fanfiction. And the rest, well, this is an encyclopedia. The IP should consider signing up for Wikia, where they are less likely to also be edit warring with Serial Number 54129 and Bonadea. Drmies (talk) 23:50, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- So here is one of the things that the IP restored:
What to the fans may look like mere "description" is much more. "Superior swimming"--superior to who? "20 meters"--did you measure this? "A reserved and informed personality"--how is "reserved" not an observation that interprets various facts and actions, or lack thereof? "Informed"--did the frog take a quiz, and score better than average? "The innocent"--innocent of what? And really "protects"? What if the frog only appears to protect? And so on. The writing is, as often in such articles, of a sophomoric level (note the dangling modification "which briefly panicked Izuku", itself likely OR). So no. This is fancruft, unbefitting of an encyclopedia. Drmies (talk) 23:55, 18 January 2020 (UTC)A girl in Class 1-A. Her Quirk Frog (蛙, Kaeru) gives her a frog-like appearance and abilities such as superior swimming, a tongue that can stretch 20 meters, sticking to and climbing vertical walls, superhuman leaping, natural camouflage, and numbing venom. She is susceptible to cold and will go into hibernation if her body temperature falls too low. She has a reserved and informed personality, but is also insightful, intelligent, and ready to protect the innocent. She is also sharp, being the first one in the class to notice the similarity between Izuku and All Might's Quirk, which briefly panicked Izuku. On the other hand, she is honest to a fault, outright admitting that she always speaks her mind, no matter how hurtful it may be.
- "honest to a fault, outright admitting that she always speaks her mind, no matter how hurtful it may be" is something that the character directly describes herself as, and 20 meters is also directly stated. While yes, the content is poorly written in some instances, completely removing it is an even worse option. As for the twitter sources, many of them came directly from the producers of the anime, so in what way is that unreliable? 99.203.40.43 (talk) 00:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- If the character calls herself "honest to a fault", why would you believe her? Doesn't Iago explain how he lacks the iniquity to do murder, before murdering Roderigo and his own wife? And who actually says 20 meters? Is there an official committee inside the program that takes measurements, that are verified by some independent agency? Why would you want to build an article on Twitter sources? We allow Twitter sources for certain things, like celebrity birthdays--is that what we have here? Or was there maybe a tweet that said "oh, that tongue, it's 20 meters long!"? In that case, you should ascribe it properly. Drmies (talk) 00:41, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- For the record, prior to Serial Number 54129 removing every piece of description, I did remove several excess descriptions, including going into specific details of these characters' abilities and unnecessarily describing their entire arc. Naming their abilities, quickly saying what they do, and a brief overview of the character should suffice, rather than completely blanking it. My problem isn't the removal of bad content, it's the removal of everything except the voice actors, which should not be the only thing relevant as this is describing both an anime and a manga, thus leaving manga readers in the dark with just naming a character who debuted after where the anime is. I can agree with you that the description for that specific character, as well as for a few others, was poorly written, but I still heavily disagree with removing entire sections instead of removing just the bloat and the poorly worded, such as "which briefly panicked Izuku", or changing poorly worded sentences. For example, instead completely removing the description because it specifically that the character's tongue stretches 20 feet, just say it's prehensile. And unless I'm remembering incorrectly, the twitter sources were usually confirmations of the characters' voice actors, rather than of the descriptions. 99.203.40.43 (talk) 01:36, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- If the character calls herself "honest to a fault", why would you believe her? Doesn't Iago explain how he lacks the iniquity to do murder, before murdering Roderigo and his own wife? And who actually says 20 meters? Is there an official committee inside the program that takes measurements, that are verified by some independent agency? Why would you want to build an article on Twitter sources? We allow Twitter sources for certain things, like celebrity birthdays--is that what we have here? Or was there maybe a tweet that said "oh, that tongue, it's 20 meters long!"? In that case, you should ascribe it properly. Drmies (talk) 00:41, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- "honest to a fault, outright admitting that she always speaks her mind, no matter how hurtful it may be" is something that the character directly describes herself as, and 20 meters is also directly stated. While yes, the content is poorly written in some instances, completely removing it is an even worse option. As for the twitter sources, many of them came directly from the producers of the anime, so in what way is that unreliable? 99.203.40.43 (talk) 00:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)