Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicolae Vasile (engineer)

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 17:11, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nicolae Vasile (engineer)

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A pretty random professor, overall. As implied by this AfD, membership in the so-called Technical Sciences Academy of Romania does not confer notability. His employer, Valahia University of Târgoviște, is third-rate, which hardly inspires confidence he might pass any WP:PROF criteria. His hobbies, while eclectic, do not rise above dilettantism. - Biruitorul ^Talk 18:55, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:01, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The motivation for the deletion is absurd. It is not to a petty wikipedian who has no qualification in the field to assess the competence of an organization, mentioning it as "so called". It is an officially recognized as such by the Romanian government. Why would it be so called, just because Biruitorul does not like it. Why would we state that the University where he is teaching is third rate or first rate. Nicolae Vasile has published several technical books. There is no reason to simply state that they worthless. The entire argument suggesting the deletion is simply a non-substantiated personal opinion. Those are not the criteria of Wikipedia. There could be hundreds of articles of Wikipedia which would be delete if we applied the citeria Biruitorul tries to apply to this article. afil

Delete. Google Scholar citation counts are well below both what I would expect for a notable academic engineer per WP:PROF#C1, but also below what I would expect for the selection criteria of a properly selective national academy, casting doubt on any case for #C3. Publication of books or papers alone is not enough for notability; those publications must be noted, and in this case we have no evidence that they have been. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:46, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Objection: Could we at least be consistent in how we deal with such proposals. I wrote the article when I tried to find information about Nicolae Vasile and found out that, according to Wikipedia he was a Romanian soccer player active in the Spain's third league. It is obviously another person. What I don't understand is why an obscure soccer player of Spain's third league is worth an article and a university professor and author of several books is not. I could easily find other examples to quote this. Maybe athletes are more publicized than scientists in mass media. That does not make them more notable. What makes you doubt about the selectivity of the national academy. It is an organization founded by several members of the Romanian Academy and its scope has been defined by a law voted in the Romanian Parliament and promulgated by the President of Romania. afil

Delete As David Eppstein pointed out, the citation profile is not nearly impressive enough to pass WP:PROF#C1, which in turn makes dubious the idea that the Technical Sciences Academy of Romania is selective enough when handing out memberships that those memberships qualify for WP:PROF#C3. In the absence of solid, affirmative evidence that the TSAoR is a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society, the safer course is to assume that it isn't. I make no judgment about whether or not his employer is "third-rate", as that seems beside the point either way. Wiki-notable people can wash up in all sorts of places, and the only case where that would matter for WP:PROF is if we were trying to decide whether a "Distinguished Professor" title or a top-level administrative position were meaningful. XOR'easter (talk) 19:19, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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