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Cocaine in White House

Should "The United States Secret Service confirms that cocaine was discovered in the West Wing of the White House on July 1, which led to a brief evacuation of the building. President Joe Biden has been briefed on the matter" be included in the portal? Carter00000 (talk) 13:54, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No. The event has little impact beyond the daily operation of the White House, so is certainly not internationally notable. Furthermore, the source notes that "Secret Service agents found the powder during a routine inspection in an area that is accessible to tour groups", so it is likely that it was a member of the general public which bought the cocaine. Carter00000 (talk) 13:58, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Your initial reasoning for removing it was that it was a "minor event without international impact", and that's true but it's not a minor issue in the United States, for starters it led to the evacuation of the White House and it's been a political embarrassment for President Biden. I'm sure if something led to the evacuation of Downing Street or the Kremlin it would also be notable enough to be included here, whether it was harmless or not. That's why I reverted you. Again, you're citing WP:BRD as though it only applies to you, and you're removing it without censensus from the Wikipedia community to do so. You want a consensus so let's reach one before you edit war again. Tagging users who have edited the same portal. @User:Mount Patagonia @User:Gianluigi02 @User:Patrick Cristiano @User:Dubstar44 @User:Ionmars10 @User:Noel baran. Your thoughts on this story's inclusion? GWA88 (talk) 22:20, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to edit war with you over this, but since this is your second case of edit warring on the current events portal in recent times I will consider bringing this to the attention of WP:ANEW. See WP:NOCONSENSUS, "When discussions of proposals to delete articles, media, or other pages end without consensus, the normal result is the content being kept", and right now we're stuck at a 1–1 decision. What happens if we're still at 1–1 a week later? It's basically down to your opinion versus mine. GWA88 (talk) 11:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 :'''No'''. The event has little impact beyond the daily operation of the White House, so is certainly not internationally notable. Furthermore, the [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66104993 source] notes that "''Secret Service agents found the powder during a routine inspection '''in an area that is accessible to tour groups'''''", so it is likely that it was a member of the general public which bought the cocaine. [[User:Carter00000|Carter00000]] ([[User talk:Carter00000|talk]]) 13:58, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 ::'''Yes'''. Your initial reasoning for removing it was that it was a "minor event without international impact", and that's true but it's not a minor issue in the United States, for starters it led to the evacuation of the White House and it's been a political embarrassment for President Biden. I'm sure if something led to the evacuation of Downing Street or the Kremlin it would also be notable enough to be included here, whether it was harmless or not. That's why I reverted you. Again, you're citing [[Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle|WP:BRD]] as though it only applies to you, and you're removing it without censensus from the Wikipedia community to do so. You want a consensus so let's reach one before you edit war again. Tagging users  who have edited the same portal. @[[User:Mount Patagonia]] @[[User:Gianluigi02]] @[[User:Patrick Cristiano]] @[[User:Dubstar44]] @[[User:Ionmars10]] @[[User:Noel baran]]. Your thoughts on this story's inclusion? [[User:GWA88|GWA88]] ([[User talk:GWA88|talk]]) 22:20, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
+::I'm not going to edit war with you over this, but since this is your second case of edit warring on the current events portal in recent times I will consider bringing this to the attention of [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring|WP:ANEW]]. See [[WP:NOCONSENSUS]], "When discussions of proposals to delete articles, media, or other pages end without consensus, '''the normal result is the content being kept'''", and right now we're stuck at a 1–1 decision. What happens if we're still at 1–1 a week later? It's basically down to your opinion versus mine. [[User:GWA88|GWA88]] ([[User talk:GWA88|talk]]) 11:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)