Talk:Luxembourg rebellions

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 04:36, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Merge

Why is this up for merging? This is simmer to the German Revolution, it was one major event with many smaller rebellions. All pages are well sourced and well organized. This should not be merged. LuxembourgLover (talk) 04:11, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

No need to split out every detail into separate edits. The Banner talk 09:38, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Economic Aftermath

Why was this edit reverted? It is important to say what happened after luxembourg. After the rebellion and the 1919 Luxembourg referendum led to stability in Luxembourg, this directly led to economic growth. LuxembourgLover (talk) 13:57, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

This is about health. The summary of the source says nothing about the rebellions. Unless the sources directly mentions the rebellion(s) or the referendum, it should not be used. And it is far more likely that the stability and economic growth was due to the end of the war. The Banner talk 14:21, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Info-box

This was clearly a military conflict. It was a rebellion and coup and an infobox is important. I don't understand why it was reverted, I also think the pictures work. LuxembourgLover (talk) 00:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@The Banner Once again reverting an edit and calling it “nonsense” is not a good explanation. This was a war and saw a French invasion of Luxembourg, by all accounts this was a military conflict. The infobox lists all the leaders on both sides. LuxembourgLover (talk) 00:58, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

• Not every article needs or deserves an infobox and WP:OTHERCONTENT is not a sound justification of itself. It should consider whether the circumstances are the same and whether it is best practice in this context. Per WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE, information added should be supported by the body of the article. For many of the commanders/leaders added, this is not the case. I don't belive there is a case to be made for adding an infobox here. There is an onus to gain consensus, which clearly does not exist at this time. Cinderella157 (talk) 03:18, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

  If you ask me I think the info box should be used, it would at least help summarize the Luxembourg Army’s organization and easy show what units rebelled. Also I think the two pictures could be added. LuxembourgLover (talk) 04:17, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

  If have many times questioned your competence before, I question your competence again. This was not a war with a clear Party A fighting Party B. There was no open combat at all.

  Beside that, you placed a photo about a police unit. In your description you suggested that this was a unit that stayed loyal to the government during all the turmoil. But the photo dates of 1910, years before the period in question. That makes the picture misleading and nonsense. The Banner talk 09:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

  While the Luxembourg Rebellion was not a conventional war, it indeed involved military actions, including the intervention of French troops which actively engaged with republican and communist forces in Luxembourg. This involvement justifies the inclusion of an infobox typically reserved for armed conflicts, reflecting the structured nature of the events, similar to other historical conflicts documented on Wikipedia.

  Regarding the images, due to the limited availability of contemporary visuals directly depicting the events, I selected images that provide historical context and relate closely to the subject matter. This approach is consistent with how other Wikipedia articles, such as Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, Attica Prison riot, and Battle of Athens (1946), utilize images to of locations. I also propose creating a map that can visually represent the geographical and strategic elements of the rebellion. LuxembourgLover (talk) 14:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

  1) Soldiers moving into town is not the same as open warfare. But when there was actual combat, please provide sources for that. (Arrests, being in the way or being threatening is not combat). 2) Regarding the links: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. That there are other articles about fights, does not make the French intervention a fight. Especially unsourced and without evidence of actual battles or casualties. 3) Pictures should have an encyclopedic purpose. They are not for decoration. And certainly should not claim something they do not depict. The Banner talk 23:39, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

  Ow, and your attempts to add a communist rebellion to the articles November 1919 and 1919 is plain cringe-worthy. There was communist-led turmoil in November 1918. There was other turmoil in January 1919. But nothing in November 1919. The Banner talk 23:56, 21 April 2024 (UTC)