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Proposed edits

Hi. My name is Greg and I work for Axos Bank, a subsidiary of Axos Financial. The current page relies almost exclusively on press releases, investor presentations, uncited content, and content not supported by the citation. In compliance with WP:COI, I wanted to share a draft of proposed changes in hopes that an impartial editor may review them. Some of these changes are mundane, while others address BLP issues, but in general they would make more of the page have proper independent citations.

If there's anything I can do to be of assistance, please let me know. Gfrostaxos (talk) 19:41, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gfrostaxos: I think the edit generally look good; had I more time, I'd make all of them now. i do think the history section also needs a rewrite or some copyediting, so it has better flow instead of choppy single-sentence paragraphs. —C.Fred (talk) 20:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of subsidiaries

Are any of the subsidiaries of Axos themselves notable companies? —C.Fred (talk) 20:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @C.Fred:. Axos has two main divisions: Axos Bank and Axos Securities. Axos Securities includes the subsidiaries Axos Clearing and Axos Invest. There's also Axos Advisor Services (which used to be ETrade Advisor Services until Axos purchased it last year). Axos Bank is probably the most well-known. However, to be honest, I'm not sure any of them are really famous enough to qualify for separate pages under Wikipedia's criteria. My thinking was more that they warrant being mentioned here instead of having a page on them. Gfrostaxos (talk) 21:44, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Smaller requested changes

I'd like to request the following phrase be removed:

and as of early 2020 is keeping the "free" business model originally designed by the start-up's founders. According to the investor presentation, Axos plans to use WiseBanyan to mine more personal data about its client base.^[1]

The first portion merely states that Axos continued using the same business model it always had. It's like saying "In 2018, the company kept the same business model. In 2019, the company kept the same business model. In 2020..." In that context, the second sentence appears to be intended as a criticism of WiseBanyan's privacy policy and use of customer data. However, this criticism is cited to an Axos investor presentation. I am not aware of any journalists or other secondary sources that have found anything significant worth writing about regarding our privacy policy. This seems undue and reflects the author's own original research/opinion more than that of any proper secondary source.

Pinging @C.Fred:, who asked that I break my requested changes into smaller requests. Gfrostaxos (talk) 20:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

^ Lai, Johnny (October 2018). "Axos To Acquire WiseBanyan" (PDF). Archived (PDF) from the original on 2020-03-01.

[1] Lai, Johnny (October 2018). "Axos To Acquire WiseBanyan" (PDF). Archived (PDF) from the original on 2020-03-01.

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 Are any of the subsidiaries of Axos themselves [[WP:CORP|notable companies]]? —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 20:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 :Hi {{ping|C.Fred}}. Axos has two main divisions: Axos Bank and Axos Securities. Axos Securities includes the subsidiaries Axos Clearing and Axos Invest. There's also Axos Advisor Services (which used to be ETrade Advisor Services until Axos purchased it last year). [[Axos Bank]] is probably the most well-known. However, to be honest, I'm not sure any of them are really famous enough to qualify for separate pages under Wikipedia's criteria. My thinking was more that they warrant being mentioned here instead of having a page on them. [[User:Gfrostaxos|Gfrostaxos]] ([[User talk:Gfrostaxos|talk]]) 21:44, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
+===Smaller requested changes===
+I'd like to request the following phrase be removed:
+::<i>and as of early 2020 is keeping the "free" business model originally designed by the start-up's founders. According to the investor presentation, Axos plans to use WiseBanyan to mine more personal data about its client base.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://investors.axosfinancial.com/Cache/IRCache/d5c115ed-d304-8105-c1c1-5a923f882921.PDF?O=PDF&T=&Y=&D=&FID=d5c115ed-d304-8105-c1c1-5a923f882921&iid=4055785|title=Axos To Acquire WiseBanyan|last=Lai|first=Johnny|date=October 2018|website=|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200301143024/http://investors.axosfinancial.com:80/Cache/IRCache/d5c115ed-d304-8105-c1c1-5a923f882921.PDF?O=PDF&T=&Y=&D=&FID=d5c115ed-d304-8105-c1c1-5a923f882921&iid=4055785 |archive-date=2020-03-01 |access-date=}}</ref></i>
+The first portion merely states that Axos continued using the same business model it always had. It's like saying "In 2018, the company kept the same business model. In 2019, the company kept the same business model. In 2020..." In that context, the second sentence appears to be intended as a criticism of WiseBanyan's privacy policy and use of customer data. However, this criticism is cited to an Axos [https://web.archive.org/web/20200301143024/http://investors.axosfinancial.com:80/Cache/IRCache/d5c115ed-d304-8105-c1c1-5a923f882921.PDF?O=PDF&T=&Y=&D=&FID=d5c115ed-d304-8105-c1c1-5a923f882921&iid=4055785 investor presentation]. I am not aware of any journalists or other secondary sources that have found anything significant worth writing about regarding our privacy policy. This seems undue and reflects the author's own original research/opinion more than that of any proper secondary source.
+Pinging {{ping|C.Fred}}, who asked that I break my requested changes into smaller requests. [[User:Gfrostaxos|Gfrostaxos]] ([[User talk:Gfrostaxos|talk]]) 20:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)