Talk:Crittenden Compromise

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Corwin Amendment?

  • Where is there a source of Lincoln rejecting the Crittenden Compromise? I'd like to see that, since his in inaugural address he said nothing about eliminating slavery in the slave holding states. In what year did Lincoln reject the failed 13th amendment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.111.15 (talk) 08:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you are thinking of the Corwin Amendment. It really should be distinguished in the article --JimWae (talk) 16:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2006? discussion about some merging

  • Agreed. Especially since "Crittenden Plan" is the more widely used term for it.
  • Merge them, same thing besides the names
  • Yes, Merge them, same topic
  • I agree, they say the same thing.
  • Merge them.
  • You need to merge these two.
  • I think that these two pages are similar enough that any useful information in the Crittenden Amendment ought to move here.--Eva db 20:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll be like everyone else and say, "Merge them."
  • In school, I learned of the Senator's plan, amendments included, as the Crittenden Compromise. I vote for merging. Mang 07:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The real deal-breaker

The article should mention that many Republicans could have swallowed most of the provisions (within the context of an overall comprehensive deal) -- given their understanding that there was very little further territory owned by the United States in 1861 which was suitable for large-scale slavery -- but the great majority of influential Republicans (very much including president-elect Lincoln) were firmly and unalterably opposed to anything which would allow future territories acquired by the United States (such as Cuba, Central America, or Mexico) to be open to slavery. In those days of Manifest Destiny, and after the recent war of 1848, many Americans thought that the U.S. would expand and acquire significant new territories in Canada or Latin America. Even those who were opposed to the idea often thought that this would probably happen -- and Republicans were absolutely unwilling to bend on this issue of not allowing slavery in future territories, which played a significant role in sinking the Crittended Compromise. AnonMoos (talk) 15:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How can an amendment entrench itself?

I'm not aware of any legal theory that allows for that, so Crittenden's notion that his amendments would be impossible to repeal by future amendment was patent nonsense. 75.76.213.106 (talk) 19:50, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]