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Why does the Skeptical Inquirer citation not link to the actual source? Rather, it is another Wiki article. Bkovit (talk) 15:32, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Marketing budget "far exceeds" R&D

I hear this claim a lot, but the sources given don't link to a primary source of info. One commonly cited source on the web is this BBC article, but it no longer shows the table: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-28212223 ...but I found the data at archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20141119101441/https://www.bbc.com/news/business-28212223 As a source, it just says a GlobalData study, but no link.

This article relies on industry self-reporting (though the data was given to Congress, so probably isn't an outright lie): https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2019/7/do-biopharma-companies-really-spend-more-on-market

I've removed these references:

NYT link doesn't say anything about R&D vs marketing spending: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/opinion/sunday/no-justification-for-high-drug-prices.html
This source https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18982834/ cites https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp058136 (Waxman) as the source of 'marketing over R&D', but that article just states how much is spent relative to medical education: "The pharmaceutical industry spends more than $5.5 billion to promote drugs to doctors each year — more than what all U.S. medical schools spend to educate medical students. Major drug companies employ about 90,000 sales representatives — one for every 4.7 doctors in the United States, according to the American Medical Association."
The text of this is behind a paywall: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18713478/

Also, the Skeptical Inquirer link is only available to subscribers: https://skepticalinquirer.org/2018/03/drug-therapy-hype-the-misuse-of-data/

More review and sources would be good. (I forgot to sign my comment.) Unclevinny (talk) 19:37, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

4.2 plagiarism

While I do not have any better information, the first three paragraphs of section "Regulation and fraud", subsection "United States", are lifted almost verbatim from the New York Times. As a student attempting to find more information, it was frustrating to not only use another computer to circumvent the paywall, but to also find the exact same text I had just read. 163.11.62.69 (talk) 16:28, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]