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It could have been caused by complications at birth, such as lack of oxygen to the brain. It isn't always inherited, although a child of autistic parents is likely to be autistic. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/143.117.23.221|143.117.23.221]] ([[User talk:143.117.23.221|talk]]) 10:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
It could have been caused by complications at birth, such as lack of oxygen to the brain. It isn't always inherited, although a child of autistic parents is likely to be autistic. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/143.117.23.221|143.117.23.221]] ([[User talk:143.117.23.221|talk]]) 10:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Both George V and Queen Mary are frequently described as 'shy' and their own letters show their agonizing inability to express themselves emotionally - even to each other. Could they have had very mild Aspergers like my own case? [[Special:Contributions/4.174.14.56|4.174.14.56]] ([[User talk:4.174.14.56|talk]]) 00:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Roxana


In the official souvenir coronation booklet of H.M. Queen Elizabeth II in 1953, there is a family tree of the Royal Family from which Prince John is omitted. Is there any information available as to why, and perhaps this could be covered. [[User:82.29.215.250|82.29.215.250]] 21:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC
In the official souvenir coronation booklet of H.M. Queen Elizabeth II in 1953, there is a family tree of the Royal Family from which Prince John is omitted. Is there any information available as to why, and perhaps this could be covered. [[User:82.29.215.250|82.29.215.250]] 21:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC
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== Other Views ==
== Other Views ==
Princes John's eldest brother Edward VIII referred to him as "little better than an animal." Whatever the accuracy that time and sentiment has displaced, can there not be something other than the sentimental hagiography and internets-ASD diagnoses that proliferate even here? It seems so easy for the ignorant, cushioned by their short-bus-joke conditioned mentalities and their self-ascribed "I'm Asberger's me - cos I like Star Wars" nonsense to fail to understand anything about the problems Prince John may really have suffered - especially those that would have necessitated him being removed from others, especially being subjected to the public eye. No - it never occurs to any of you that he may have been prone to masturbating uncontrollably in public, for example - of course none of you have any idea what it is like for an adolescent with such disabilities, never mind the need to ever contemplate such. None of which is encyclopedic any more than the gushing 'nature's innocent special child' bullshit portrayed and endorsed so enthusiatically here. [[User:Plutonium27|Plutonium27]] ([[User talk:Plutonium27|talk]]) 18:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Princes John's eldest brother Edward VIII referred to him as "little better than an animal." Whatever the accuracy that time and sentiment has displaced, can there not be something other than the sentimental hagiography and internets-ASD diagnoses that proliferate even here? It seems so easy for the ignorant, cushioned by their short-bus-joke conditioned mentalities and their self-ascribed "I'm Asberger's me - cos I like Star Wars" nonsense to fail to understand anything about the problems Prince John may really have suffered - especially those that would have necessitated him being removed from others, especially being subjected to the public eye. No - it never occurs to any of you that he may have been prone to masturbating uncontrollably in public, for example - of course none of you have any idea what it is like for an adolescent with such disabilities, never mind the need to ever contemplate such. None of which is encyclopedic any more than the gushing 'nature's innocent special child' bullshit portrayed and endorsed so enthusiatically here. [[User:Plutonium27|Plutonium27]] ([[User talk:Plutonium27|talk]]) 18:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Edward VIII also wrote how fond he was of little Johnnie. In fact he probably barely knew his youngest brother having been sent off to Osborne naval academy when John was only three and after that to Dartmouth and Oxford, (a waste of time if ever there was one).
However I do agree with you about John's condition being romanticized. Contemporary reports seem to show he was uncontrollable and sometimes violent and destructive. [[Special:Contributions/4.174.14.56|4.174.14.56]] ([[User talk:4.174.14.56|talk]]) 00:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Roxana

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I am very interested in the life of Prince John. I feel he suffered from autism (sp). I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW 1. Where was York House in the Great Park at Windsor 2. Where was he buried. Any info graetfully received. Annette SPRING.TERRACE.FARM @xtra.co.nz

York House is on the Sandringham Royal Estate (where Sandringham House is), Norfolk, England. He was buried in the churchyard on the same estate (the Church of St Mary Magdalene).


I've also heard he was autistic. There was a BBC series on his life ('The Forgotten Prince'?) which showed him to be so. This should be added I think --Josquius 18:22, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Since Asperger's Syndrome (or high-functioning autism) is, at least partly, a genetic condition (there is strong evidence to support this view), how can Prince John have had it when no other member of the Royal Family is known to have had it?

It could have been caused by complications at birth, such as lack of oxygen to the brain. It isn't always inherited, although a child of autistic parents is likely to be autistic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.117.23.221 (talk) 10:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Both George V and Queen Mary are frequently described as 'shy' and their own letters show their agonizing inability to express themselves emotionally - even to each other. Could they have had very mild Aspergers like my own case? 4.174.14.56 (talk) 00:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Roxana[reply]

In the official souvenir coronation booklet of H.M. Queen Elizabeth II in 1953, there is a family tree of the Royal Family from which Prince John is omitted. Is there any information available as to why, and perhaps this could be covered. 82.29.215.250 21:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC

This is perhaps only because he died young and without children. The coronation booklet aims to provide a concise look at the royal family, how the current monarch descends, etc. The queen's dead uncle was probably omitted because of space, and not because there was any attempt to cover him up. However, this is just a personal opinion. PeterSymonds | talk 20:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other Views

Princes John's eldest brother Edward VIII referred to him as "little better than an animal." Whatever the accuracy that time and sentiment has displaced, can there not be something other than the sentimental hagiography and internets-ASD diagnoses that proliferate even here? It seems so easy for the ignorant, cushioned by their short-bus-joke conditioned mentalities and their self-ascribed "I'm Asberger's me - cos I like Star Wars" nonsense to fail to understand anything about the problems Prince John may really have suffered - especially those that would have necessitated him being removed from others, especially being subjected to the public eye. No - it never occurs to any of you that he may have been prone to masturbating uncontrollably in public, for example - of course none of you have any idea what it is like for an adolescent with such disabilities, never mind the need to ever contemplate such. None of which is encyclopedic any more than the gushing 'nature's innocent special child' bullshit portrayed and endorsed so enthusiatically here. Plutonium27 (talk) 18:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC) Edward VIII also wrote how fond he was of little Johnnie. In fact he probably barely knew his youngest brother having been sent off to Osborne naval academy when John was only three and after that to Dartmouth and Oxford, (a waste of time if ever there was one).[reply]

 However I do agree with you about John's condition being romanticized. Contemporary reports seem to show he was uncontrollable and sometimes violent and destructive. 4.174.14.56 (talk) 00:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Roxana[reply]