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:::That's not a policy, but a guideline (check the difference). The 'guideline' allows using the word. "...''alleged and accused are appropriate when wrongdoing is asserted but undetermined.''" Btw, I've provided random sources for the "allegation". --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 18:45, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
:::That's not a policy, but a guideline (check the difference). The 'guideline' allows using the word. "...''alleged and accused are appropriate when wrongdoing is asserted but undetermined.''" Btw, I've provided random sources for the "allegation". --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 18:45, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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== Allegedly ==

There is some dispute over whether the claims about "AMAD" should be qualified as "alleged". The proof that "alleged" is required is that the only source is a [https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/gov2011-65.pdf 2011 IAEA report] that attributes the information to unnamed "Member States" and calls it "alleged" 28 times. If the IAEA is careful enough to called it "alleged", we should be too. [[User:Zero0000|Zero]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Zero0000|talk]]</small></sup> 11:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 May 2018

I request that the removed sourced information from the article be restored: Project Amad (or AMAD Plan) is a covert and allegedly ongoing[1] Iranian scientific project intended to develop a functioning nuclear warhead. On 30 April 2018, the project was claimed to have been revealed by Israel.[2][3] The project and its details were however previously known (as far back as 2005[4]) by the IAEA as is shown in the IAEA's 2015 Final Assessment on Past and Present Outstanding Issues regarding Iran’s Nuclear Programme. [5][6][7] RedSparrow1 (talk) 14:30, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 17:10, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

POV issues

The POV tag was removed by Icewhiz. He's also restored my other edit. No wonder! Anyway, as for the tag and the use of "alleged" :

  • "Netanyahu alleged that Iran for years operated a secret project known as Amad..." CNN
  • "... Iranian documents relating to something called Protect Amad" The Independent.
  • "...relating to Project Amad. The project, he said, had had the explicit... " BBC.

That's why the article should be tagged, unless the issues are resolved. --Mhhossein talk 13:26, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • The existence of project Amad is confirmed by non-Israeli sources - e.g. [1] dating back to 2015. The alleged contents of the project (pending evaluation of the documents) is possibly still a "said" situation.Icewhiz (talk) 15:48, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    We have a policy of WP:CLAIM also there are plenty of other sources--Shrike (talk) 18:38, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a policy, but a guideline (check the difference). The 'guideline' allows using the word. "...alleged and accused are appropriate when wrongdoing is asserted but undetermined." Btw, I've provided random sources for the "allegation". --Mhhossein talk 18:45, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Netanyahu claims Israel has proof Iran still trying trying to develop a nuclear weapon". The Independent. 2018-04-30. Retrieved 2018-04-30.
  2. ^ "Israel says Iran hid nuclear arms programme". BBC News. 2018-04-30. Retrieved 2018-04-30.
  3. ^ DiChristopher, Tom (2018-04-30). "Netanyahu: Iran had secret 'Project Amad' to design, produce and test warheads". CNBC. Retrieved 2018-04-30.
  4. ^ Gaietta, Michele (2015). The Trajectory of Iran's Nuclear Program. Palgrave Macmillan Ltd. p. 140. ISBN 9781137508256.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
  5. ^ https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/gov-2015-68.pdf
  6. ^ "Iran may be researching nuclear warhead, claims watchdog". theguardian.com. 2011-10-08. Retrieved 2018-05-01.
  7. ^ "Making Sense of Netanyahu's Strange Slideshow". newrepublic.com. 2018-04-30. Retrieved 2018-05-01.

Allegedly

There is some dispute over whether the claims about "AMAD" should be qualified as "alleged". The proof that "alleged" is required is that the only source is a 2011 IAEA report that attributes the information to unnamed "Member States" and calls it "alleged" 28 times. If the IAEA is careful enough to called it "alleged", we should be too. Zerotalk 11:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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