Talk:Ram Navami riots
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Delhi-Meerut riots
TrangaBellam, I wonder if you have access to the book:
- Engineer, Asghar Ali (1988). Delhi-Meerut Riots: Analysis, Compilation, and Documentation. Ajanta Publications (India). ISBN 9788120201989.
Google showed this passage:
Syed Shahabuddin was found trying to restrain the latter. Fast on the heels of the Muslim rally at Boat Club came the Ram Navami procession on April 7, organised by the Hindu communal groups. (p.77)
But I can't see any context or how this influenced Meerut. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:54, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Kautilya3 IA has a copy. TrangaBellam (talk) 17:57, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Muscular Rama
The muscular Rama of 2002 can be seen in these articles:
- [2022/04/vhp-plans-to-carry-out-over-1000-ram-navami-rallies-in-west-bengal/ VHP plans to organise over 1,000 Shobha Yatras in West Bengal on Ram Navami: Report], OpIndia, 5 April 2022.
- Hyderabad: Rama Navami Shobha Yatra passes off peacefully, Telangana Today, 10 April 2022.
- Hyderabad: Colourful 'Shobha Yatra' on Ram Navami taken out in city, Hans India, 11 April 2022.
-- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:32, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Can you tell the difference between left wing depiction and right wing depiction of Rama. Bharat0078 (talk) 14:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- The opposite of "right wing" is not necessarily "left wing". It could be just normal, in this case traditional.
... a wonderfully insightful and erudite article from 1993 by Anuradha Kapur called "Deity to Crusader: The Changing Iconography of Ram" (A. Kapur 1993a). Here Kapur traces a marked iconographic shift in popular imagery from the earlier, textually sanctioned depictions of Ram as soft, smooth-bodied, almost pudgy, smiling, benign, and above all gentle and tranquil (see figs. 93 and 129), to the more recent muscular versions whose rasa or mood is (according to Kapur) predominantly ugra: "angry, exercised ... punishing" (75), emphasizing his bow and arrows in their capacity as weapons rather than as mere iconographic markers (fig. 138). Kapur describes how the characterization of Rama's compassionate, tender, composed, and non-muscular spans several different textual, pictorial, and performative cultural forms following the first written appearance of the Ramayana story sometime between 500 BCE and 300 CE. The departure from these established iconographic conventions, Kapur argues, is made possible by "the making of a virile Hinduism," which accompanies the encroachment of "realism," and particularly the depiction of a "virile" physiognomy, onto the mythic or iconic image.[1]
- -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:16, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
The muscular Rama also makes his appearance in this video of a so-called "Ram Bhajan", a "Ram Navmi special" from 2 years ago.[2] Here is another copy branded with "Bajrang Dal & RSS". I am sure this song and others like it have been played throughout the country this year too. And, then they ask, why do they throw stones? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:30, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Pandey, who was a BJP worker till a while ago, says that such songs became popular around 2013-14. They are now played at political rallies and shobha yatras. A number of these songs are also remixed to make them dance-worthy. “People listen to them in programmes organised by Hindu organisations, and during festivals like Ram Navami and Hanuman Jayanti,” Pandey says. He hints at the political support for his work. “Only people with a strong backing can do this work.”[3]
- -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:56, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Jain, Kajri (2007). Gods in the Bazaar: The Economies of Indian Calendar Art. Duke University Press. pp. 321–322. ISBN 978-0-8223-3926-7.
- ^ Suanshu Khurana, Ram ke naam on YouTube: Songs of blood, bullets, ‘traitors’, The Indian Express, 11 August 2019.
- ^ Mansi Dua, Sound and Fury: The voices creating aggressive Hindutva’s soundtrack, The Indian Express, 22 January 2019.
the relevant section of the destination page can be expanded to include the details from the source page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:57, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Stone pelting needs to included
Many WP:RS sources have mentioned about multiple instances of stone pelting on the processions, which is missing from lead As per WP:NPOV, we need a more balanced lead.
As the processions pass through sensitive areas, the devotees participating in the Ram Navami procession often face stone pelting from mobs.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/400-booked-20-arrested-for-rioting-and-assault-during-ram-navami-in-malad-west-101680291149831.html RogerYg (talk) 03:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)