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== New Request 26 June 2019 ==

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Revision as of 17:15, 26 June 2019


Persistent IP editor: Please try hard to improve your use of Wikipedia

Hi there! you have been trying hard to make improvements to this article, but your efforts have become disruptive. I will not hold your past activities against you, if you will try very hard to improve the way you edit Wikipedia going forward.

Here are the problems that I and other editors have seen. Each of these issues require improvement on your part:

  • Please place related requests in the same section, Don't start a new section for the identical request.
  • Please do not start a new section with a name that is identical to the name of an earlier section on the same talk page.
  • Please do not start a line with a space character: That causes funny formatting.
  • Please consider crating an account. Since you are editing without logging in, it is hard for us to communicate with you.

If you have any questions about how to do these things, Please feel free to ask here and I will try to help.

Persistent IP editor: Thanks for trying to improve!

You are doing better: making change requests here.

Hi 223.230.147.40. Please follow the advice given to you and do not remove content from talk pages. Misleading edit summaries are considered bad practice. Please stop. Dbfirs 10:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article Sources/Cleanup

A number of editors have all tried to help, but you've (shifting IP address requester with persistent and conflicting change requests) requested conflicting changes, erased/replaced some requests with new ones, added and removed requests on individual editor talk pages, failed to provide links to sources, and generally been unclear in what changes you are requesting. Here is what I've done to improve the article as that is what our focus is regardless of your preferences on how you would like to see the information presented. I've

  • conducted a copy edit of the article contents itself
  • clarified article wording based on the citations
  • located more sources for some items in the Early Life section
  • removed minor details for which I couldn't find any source
  • consolidated Shamsheer's efforts related to NRI rights
  • reorganized the Awards and Accolades section

Multiple editors have already tweaked the infobox (in multiple conflicting ways due to your repeated, unclear, and unconventional requests), so I left that part alone until you are able to succinctly state your request with appropriate sources. Orville1974 (talk) 19:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request 25 June 2019

This is a previous request, please do not edit it. Instead start a new request by click that link. Thank you!
In the new tab that pops out
  • First box (Subject/headline) please enter "Edit Request [put the date]". So make sure to replace "put the date" with date you made the request.
  • Second box, put what you actually want to be changed. (like you have been doing 1)change)

The Requests

  • Some informations need to be added in Dr. Shamsheer's article:-

1:) In infobox:Add his parents name.(Extract information from Dr. Shamsheer's google profile page)
2:) In awards and accolades paragraph:

a.) Healthcare CEO of The Year, 2019.[[1]]
b:) ABLF Outstanding Business Citizen Award, October 6,2018.[[2]]

3:) One more thing in awards and accolades paragraph an error is occuring in one of the citation ([25]). After clicking on that citation a archive gets open. The main problem in that page is; the page sometimes works and sometimes shows error. That page should be properly updated and saved, so that it never shows error again.
Thanks.(223.230.174.6 (talk) 17:23, 25 June 2019 (UTC))[reply] 

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.230.174.6 (talk) 17:11, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re posted for clarity OkayKenG (talk) 02:29, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Change Log/Responses to Request(s)

The following are responses the the requests made.

Sir,the link on which you asked to click is the same I am also talking about. The link is working sometimes and the next time it shows error. The link should be properly updated and saved. (comment by 223.230.174.6)
Okay, for me it works every time so I will keep track of it. I will try to work out the issue, once I see that the link does not work. OkayKenG (talk) 04:02, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing in Dr. Shamsheer's article his wife name is written as Shabeena Ali instead of that Shabeena Vayalil should be written (in infobox).Link:-[[3]] Thanks. (223.230.174.6 (talk) 03:39, 26 June 2019 (UTC))[reply]
(I guess this is Request 4) We should have a discussion that before we change that. We tend to use their WP:COMMONNAME when mentioning a spouse in the infobox. Many other biographies on Wikipedia use the spouse's maiden name (name before marriage). As Shabeena Vayalil's name before marriage is Shabeena Ali, that's why we have her name here like that in the infobox. Sorry I had to reformat your comment to make it easier to see, but I tired not to change any of the content. OkayKenG (talk) 04:02, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Referring to Request 2b about the "ABLF Outstanding Business Citizen Award" I will add that as it is confinedconfirmed by an reliable source. Thanks for the ref! OkayKenG (talk) 04:07, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I did it. OkayKenG (talk) 04:12, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Referring to Request 2a, is done. Again thanks. Used a different source though (this link) OkayKenG (talk) 04:24, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • As per, Orville1974's comment above. I did not edit the infobox. Request 1 has not yet been made, google itself is not a reliable source. Hope this is not confusing. OkayKenG (talk) 04:28, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sir, to know about Dr. Shamsheer's parents name click on the citation ([25]) present in Awards and accolades paragraph.
Thanks. (223.230.174.6 (talk) 05:20, 26 June 2019 (UTC))[reply]
Oh, thanks, totally missed that. I added the parent's in this edit. Request 1 has been done now. OkayKenG (talk) 05:40, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Summery (June 25) All requests 1-3 have been addressed. In these edits we have added the parent's name (in the infobox). For request 2, reliable sources confirm those awards and so have been added. Request 3 is under investigation. Request 4, for now (pun intended) has not been implemented pending the discussion indicated above. OkayKenG (talk) 05:47, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the suggestions OkayKenG (talk) 05:48, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sir, for how many days Request 3 will be under investigation? Will the citation work properly or not in future?
Please see Eman235's comment below. (the one that starts with "By the way—have not read this whole thread—...") If the issue comes up again, you can bring it up again. It should be fixed. Per this tweet which says "Internet Archive sites are back up after last night's unexpected fiber cut. Let's go back to just reading about drama and suspense - the library is now open." OkayKenG (talk) 06:23, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • After how many days Request 4 will be implemented?

Thanks. (223.230.174.6 (talk) 06:10, 26 June 2019 (UTC))[reply]

For Request 4, we just have to wait for other user's comment. OkayKenG (talk) 06:23, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Hey, can't you say it looks a little bit better then previous threads? :) OkayKenG (talk) 06:23, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Final Bullet Okay, this is the final question asked by the OP "One more thing in Dr. Shamsheer's article his wife name is written as Shabeena Ali instead of that Shabeena Vayalil should be written (in infobox).Link:-[[4]]" We should have a discussion that before we change that. (pinging recent editors Orville1974,Eman235,@Eagleash:))
I think we should leave it as it is: We tend to use their WP:COMMONNAME when mentioning a spouse in the infobox. Many other biographies on Wikipedia use the spouse's maiden name (name before marriage). As Shabeena Vayalil's name before marriage is Shabeena Ali, that's why we have her name here like that in the infobox. OkayKenG (talk) 06:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sir, if the archives sites are backed up last night, then according to Request 3 the archive page 20,21 & 22 should be updated & saved with the help of Wayback Machine. Thanks. (223.230.174.6 (talk) 08:44, 26 June 2019 (UTC))[reply]
Please repost this following this link new request. <--Thanks OkayKenG (talk) 15:16, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The following changes have been made

  • Shamsheer Vayalil's parents have been added in the infobox, with a footnote
  • 2 awards given to Shamsheer Vayalil have been added with sources
  • The issue with ref 25 has been resloved. Thanks to Eman235 pointing out an issue with Wayback Machine which is now back up
  • Shamsheer Vayalil's wife has been kept as Shabeena Ali

New Request 26 June 2019

The Request

Change Log/Responses to Request(s)

Summery of Changes

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